"Takes a licken and keeps on ticken"

Started by RC Drown, March 17, 2013, 10:19:07 AM

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MRR41 COUPE

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Great news, now its time to drive.
Mike
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RC Drown

After some tinkering with the clutch and a few other items, we set her down on all four wheels last evening and put about ten miles on her.  All systems are GO!!!!!!!
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RC Drown

She ain't pretty, but all is going back together finally.  I got my intake and exhaust gaskets today along with the water pump gasket.  I have spent the morning getting her battoned back up.  Like Hannibal Smith use to say, " I love it when a plan comes together"
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RC Drown

Thanks SD Glenn, I like the PBR while my son likes the Coors light.  We have another engine installed, just waiting on new intake and exhaust gaskets as we had to use them off of my old engine.  The base for my carb on the intake was too small, so that is why we are changing manifolds.  We have learned alot about these old engines this past month.  The engine I am installing is a 1936 einginie that came with a floor shift tranny.  We removed my bell housing and tranny from my engine, the bolted right up to the '36 engine.  Very pleased abouit that.
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SD Glenn

Bob, you should have told me... When you get Coors Light and Pabst together in the same garage I can see you need help, even with the engine change......
Take care of you
SD Glenn
SDGlenn
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RC Drown

Not a problem, just keep me posted and we'll go from there
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nydak

I should have the 40 at  Rhinebeck. The  motor is going to get changed this summer. Not sure just when yet.
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RC Drown

Let me know when, I may just be interested.  Thanks, and most likely we'll see you at Rhinebeck on Sunday
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nydak

Bob , I have a 50 motor i am pulling out of my 40 conv  that runs great if u are interested. Replacing it with a 40 that is bored 30 over, hot cam,  2 carbs , split manifold, and edmonds head. Should be available soon.
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elmo

Bob,    the front mount is available, the  rubber mount is the same for chrysler dodge plymouth and desoto 6 cyl from 37, at least until the early 50,s. the mounting frame from your 41 should fit straight onto the 37 engine , the most you should have to do is remove the bottom pulley to change it . i am  going through the same process but in reverse , i am fitting a 50.s chrysler engine to my 39 S6 desoto the engine is in and runnig, i just have to fine tune the gear linkage, best of luck with your car  . Rex
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RC Drown

Yes, I am going to use the engine that was delivered yesterday.  Last night we pulled the old engine out, I would like to have the engine we pulled last night rebuilt, but will use the engine I got yesterday in the meantime.  Hope I am making sense here:):)

Much easier to work on the engine with the front clip removed.

The front motor mount isn't any good, we may have problems as I have to use the brace for the '41 engine when we install the '37 engine, as the brace for the '37 won't align up correctly.  The motor mounts aren't the same.  Might have to do some drilling
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MRR41 COUPE

Bob, love your pictures. Having your front off reminds me of what your going through. Only someone with a 41 knows that the front assembly was made to remove in one piece and is not that difficult  to remove ( is hard not to cause a couple of little paint scratches), and saves a lot of work fighting to reach and adjust certain parts of the engine, these old plymouths were made with service in mind ( thank god for that). Its kind of a joy to have the front clip off after many miles so you can check things out good, and clean and paint parts that could not be reached.

Good luck
Mike
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captbrian41

Hi Bob, sorry for the setback. Are you going to use the new engine being delivered or rebuild your old engine, didn't quite understand what you were saying. Sure looks like your getting ready to pull it now with the front end off. Seems like its always easier to rebuild with it out of the car, especially when you break the body down as far as you have. Glad to hear your son is doing all the work. How are you feeling?
Brian
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RC Drown

We have run into a few SNAFU's with the engine, we are now in the process of pulling it.  I broke #2 main bearing cap, unable (at this point) to find another one.  I found a good running engine locally that is suppose to be delivered today.  I will most likely have the old engine rebuilt professionally if I can find a good cap
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RC Drown

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captbrian41

Hey Bob, you doing the engine repair in the car or did you pull it?
Brian
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RC Drown

Thanks Mike,

We are coming along in fine shape.  We have new pistons, rings, rod bearings and main bearings. Tonight we installed the mains all except the last one by the tranny as we are going to replace the rear main seal
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MRR41 COUPE

Hope things are moving ahead with the flathead.

Mike
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RC Drown

Mike and Brian,

Thanks for the comments, we are expecting upwards of six inches of snow tomorrow afternoon and evening before changing to freezing rain.  With ordering the parts tomorrow I should have them in a week or so and back on the road shortly thereafter, but with the weather being as it has been, one never knows
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MRR41 COUPE

Bob, I hate to see your down with the warm weather just around the corner, Post pictures of the overhaul,
thanks, Mike
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captbrian41

Hi Bob, top of the morning to you and a Happy St.Pat's at that. Had that same scenario with that 38 Buick that I owned. The 248 in it was a great engine with a similar problem. I could get it to run but not well or at speed and when I broke it down three of the eight pistons were in rough shape with missing pieces and broken rings but no damage to the cylinder walls. New pistons again from Egge @ 30 over & bored the cylinders. it had poured bearings in great shape so just removed shims from the connecting rod bearing caps to get into tolerances, new cam bearings and top end work and it was off to the races with it. Feeling I would like to freshen up the engine on the Business Coupe as my compression is getting a little low at last check but almost afraid to open a can of worms. Like you i can get in it and drive all day to a show or cruise in and get back home. Maybe I should leave well enough alone. Bought an overdrive tranny a few years ago but have been reluctant to change that out also, originality you know. Oh well that's my Paddy's morning story and I'm sticking to it.
Brian
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RC Drown

Like John Cameron Swayze use to say in the old Timex commercials that is how I feel about the engine in my Plymouth.  My Plymouth is a 1940 P-10 Business coupe with a 1941 P-12 engine in it.  I have had the car for almost 25 years with the same engine.  She had started using and burning oil so last evening after supper while my son and his family were here, he and I went out in the garage and took the pistons out.  I had five out of six pistons with the top ring broken, was able to find all the pieces, plus piston #1 had a chunk taken out of the top lip.  No wonder she burned oil.  With the broken rings, it is a wonder she even started or ran, but what is amazing is that a week ago today I had her out and about for about 30 miles and she ran well.  Just like the old Timex commercial said"Takes a licken and Keeps on Ticken" is so true of these mopar flat head sixes.  I have new rings which came from Egge, so tomorrow I will order new bearings (10 over) and new pistons (30 over) from Egge.  There was no damage to the side walls in the cylinders or the crankshaft.  I consider myself very lucky.
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