Bob, I forgot to thank you for including the site www.joesherlock.  That is really a good site for anybody, specially if you have a 1939 model.  There is a picture in there of a 1939 "Deluxe" convertible model that has the Black Fenders....
Thanks again
SD Glenn

This site is sure "quiet" this time of the year isn't it. lol

Yes, it is too bad

Robert, In the POC Issue 128 refers to painting the fenders Black as an option, prior to 39 the Roadking (P7) were all painted with black fenders and another solid color for the body. The deluxe were a solid color. It also refers to Leather Interior as an option (for more money) lol
I would like to see one, that someone has, that is painted that way. Curiosity more than anything else, it probable looks good.
The article was "by Jim Benjaminson" but looked like he had taken some info from an other publication perhaps..

This site is sure "quiet" this time of the year isn't it. lol

SD Glenn

Glenn, I may be wrong, but supposedly 1941 was the first year that Plymouth used more than one color

I just found this link, it might help

http://www.joesherlock.com/39Ply_history.html

Thanks Tod, I looked thru your site last week, and didn't put it together (in my mind) that the P7 was included in that chart. Thanks for setting me straight, I looked again and found what I needed. Thanks.   I got the Valve Covers off, I think someone had already cleaned them out, the gaskets looked old but the chamber its self was spotless. At least now I know....  Thanks for the great site and the help.
I would still like to see other members 1939 models, for a reference on what color to paint (if I decide to paint this one) Has anyone seen one with the fenders painted black with the body another color?

SD Glenn

Engine colors here: http://www.ply33.com/Backmatter/EngineColor

I found in back issues of the POC Bulletin all the paint colors for the car body. Along with a blurp about an option? the fenders and sheet metal were painted black, with the body being another color, and being a solid color. (what ever that means)  However, I could find nothing about the colors inside the engine compartment, to include the engine colors. ???  The head looks to be aluminum ( maybe) can find no colors on the engine its self. Anybody with a 1939 model? How about a picture of your engines, and the cars, would be appreciated.
Thanks
SD Glenn

Reading thru the "old" manual I found in the trunck, I found where this manual is for a 1941 Model Plymouth. So much for this Roadking being a Military model. I am just as thrilled with it the way it is anyhow, besides, saves me a lot of work and money. lol
I haven't started the engine yet, still working on the other maintenance things that seem easier (I'm lazy) to work on. I am kinda pleased with what I am finding. I pulled the rear brake drums off, some one had Replaced the Shoes, seals, and brgs before they put it in storage. They didn't even oil up the rear leather grease seals so they look just like out of the box. Still I had to replace the wheel cylinder kits, They were pretty dried out. At least some more new parts are here. Makes me wonder thou, what else didn't they do right. lol. However, I guess it doesn't make a diference, I will pull it all down anyhow. lol  I looked thru the POC Bulletin 216, interesting reading, but just confirmed this car is not military.
Later
SD Glenn

Glenn - the Plymouth Bulletin did an extensive feature on the military Plymouths back in issue 216.  If you have the DVD set you can access the info.  If not, I do have extra copies of that issue.  The military manual is quite rare - I have one someplace (just don't ask me where!!!!).  Any special parts should be listed in that manual.  I believe (this is from memory as that issue is nearly 100 issues back in time) that one of the military requirements was that all locks were keyed the same - that is - trunk, door, ignition, etc., all used the same key.  Most of the other changes included military items like the blackout lights, etc.  Plymouth did build a little more than 1,000 military order 1941 Plymouths.  All were built within a certain serial number sequence.  To date I only know of one "real" military '41 - an unrestored car in Montana. 

Thanks Bob, I really like "Shots in the dark". You gave me something to look for. I know its a shot in the dark about the military even having a 2d staff car. lol  I would be amazed if this was one of them. Thanks,
Later
SDGLenn

Glenn,

This is most likely a shot in the dark, but I suppose you should look for any evidence of green paint, any holes that were drilled to hold flash lights, fire extingishers, etc.

also any stenciled instuctions on the dash or else where

If my memory serves me correct, there is a member of this forum from PA that has a 1941 Plymouth 4dr done up as the Navy would have done it in World War Two, he may be able to help you also. Plus a number of years ago the Bulletin had a great article on WW Two Plymouths

Like I mentioned, a shot in the dark,
Bob

Does anybody know much about the Military Plymouths?  I found a manual in the trunk, "Instruction Manual for Plymouth cars built for United States Army[/b]". It has all the information as the Shop Manual, plus some extra info.  This book is well used, pretty beat up, but most pages are readable, quite posibly from the same time frame.  What should I be looking for on this 1939 Roadking Plymouth  2 door Sedan to see if this could posible be a military vehicle?  Any info will be appreciated. I would like it to be a Military one, being I retired with 32 years in the army.
SDGlenn