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1930

I did not read into your post well enough to see that you were referancing USA parts books. I should also assume that you are implying Plymouth parts books and I will just add that I have stacks of Dodge parts books ( model specific ) dated from late 1927 to late 30s, before Chrysler takeover they were issued by Dodge Brothers and were a little larger than the owners manuals we see in all of our cars, after Chrysler they went to the 8 1/ by 11 standard paper size that you see this Plymouth Canadian parts manual using.
I find it very interesting and hard to believe that Plymouth autos were not issued similar books so I will have to take that challenge and see if I can come up with one. Very interesting indeed and thanks for sharing that piece if info
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Jim Benjaminson

Yep - like I said.  I've never seen parts books earlier than 1934 for USA built cars.  These books have to be uinique to Canada.  Some years back I bought a stack of old parts books from a guy - when I say they were Canadian I thoughtI had been given a "real deal".  Turns out the Canadian parts books were much better illustrated than the USA ones and I wish I had more of the "far north" versions!  If someone out there has a pre-1934 USA parts or service manual, I'd like to hear about it!
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1930

Hello Jim, if you scroll down 3 posts you will see the 28 29 model speciifc parts book, they were issued every year for all models up until when I do not know but my guess is that this practice never stopped
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Jim Benjaminson

For what its worth, I've never seen a USA issued parts book prior to 1934 except for the master parts book.  If anyone has earlier than 1934, please let me know the code number on the cover and date of issue!
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1930

I just ran across some addit. info, according to the 1934 Plymouth master parts book model code Q covered cars whose serial numbers ranged from HL-950-P to .......Ah I see what you are saying Tod, yes it would appear to be an earlier parts book. Published July 1 1929.
It states at bottom Chrysler motor parts corporation of canada limited but printed in the USA, covers both domestic and Canadian models. 60 pages same generic pict. that are found in other parts manuals of the era.
I was not aware that 28 Plymouth used Fedco numbers, I am under the impression that fedco numbers were uses starting with the 1926 model year and ending at 1930 but again I did not know that Plymouth used these with their introductory models.
I have read here............http://www.ply33.com/Models/U/ that the first 29 Plymouth rolled of the line Jan 7 1929 so it would appear that yes the book covers 1928 models and then some of the 29 as you stated.
You mention having the 34 parts book, what would it take to get a copy of the tools page, unless I am misunderstanding your parts book covers the PF standard six, is that correct?
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TodFitch

It is my understanding that the model Q Plymouths introduced in 1928 were marketed as 1929. However the Plymouth Owners Club considers them 1928 models to distinguish them from the model U Plymouths.

The serial numbers you list for parts book (HL950p to RH977H and GP000P to GP5808) are rather interesting. All of the serial number listings I have, issued at different times by Chrysler, show the model Q as having numbers in the range HL-950-P to HD-999-D (Detroit) or GP-000-P to GP-582-E (Windsor). So it seems that your parts book doesn't cover the last few cars in the series. I wonder why. Is there an issue date on the book too? Maybe the parts book was issued before they actually stopped making them.

The model U Plymouths have a different set of FedCo serial number ranges, so unless there are other ranges listed on your book, it seems you have a model Q specific parts book.

For what its worth, the earliest single model parts book I have is for 1934 and its an early edition that does not cover the PG model.
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1930

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Done that, thanks!!!!

I was able to answer my own question, I forgot that I had this 29 Plymouth model specific parts manual, my next question so this post in not a complete waste would be on the cover of this book it states affective serial numbers Detroit from HL950p to RH977H Windsor from GP000P to GP5808............Unless I am incorrect these are serial numbers of the cars that the book covers so would this book cover 28 models as well, I dont know how these numbers ran and have been under the impression that most if not all 28 Plymouths were introduced as 29 models and please correct me if I am wrong.
It would appear clear that all Plymouth after 29 would have had the same books issued to them so please read my post entitled Here IS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ME and help if you can, thanks
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RC Drown

Contact Tod Fitch, he is a member of this forum and the p15-d24 forum.  He has a great website on the early 30's Plymouths

Hope this helps,
Bob
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1930

I have asked this already on another Plymouth forum but I may as well ask here as well.


Is there such a thing as a model specific parts book for early Plymouths, if not than when did they first start to show up.  Just in case that is unclear.....Dodge for instance had parts books released each year, in some cases they also issued revised issues and  preliminary issues as well. These parts manual are much more accurate than Masters Parts books because these books showed more accurate current parts #s as apposed to later additions where they sorta jumbled alot of things together.
It is with these model specific parts books that I am able to cross referance part # for instance I have found 3 original Dodge toolkits for the 1936 model year, Plymouth using their master parts book ( that shows pict. by the way ) has confirmed that Plymouth used the same jack.
Another example is the Plymouth 32 P2 used the same jack as Dodge used for a number of years, I know what these jacks looked like thru collection of photos and literature from both makes. I unfortunately cant say what other specific year Plymouths used this 941 jack because I dont have the model specific parts book for Plymouth or rather I have very few so if anyone has any suggestions on contact people that would scan that single page from their parts books ( if it does exist ) than I can move forward.
I cant afford to buy every Plymouth part book that shows up on e-bay.

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