jack

[1930]

Furylee , Thanks for the pics, as far as I know that is  the correct jack for 34-39 Dodge autos, I wont comment on Plymouth at this point but your post is a big help for me, couple of questions please, is the bottom of the jack stamped SJ 1888, I am assuming it is a 3 stage??? And I am also assuming that it will not lift the car quite high enough to place a fully inflated tire on the drum. Am I correct? Also have you ever used the handle, I dont recognize the tang on the end, does it fit????You found the handle in a 36 what?
Please keep my e-mail at , if ever you can take pict of the tools in your 41 and can give me a heads up so I can give you a wish list of shots it would be nice. Thank-you again

Glenn, here are a couple of photos, if you guys could think of me when you look at a car, ask, is there a toolkit and snap some photos that would be great.

[SD Glenn]

The Marks Video's I was referring  to were the ones MVAIR is posting, they are great. As long as this jack works as good as it does for my plymouth I am satisfied with it. I would still like to see your Dodge Victoria, I appreciate all Chrysler Corp cars. I almost bought a 29 Dodge coupe last weekend, somebody had more money to spend than I did, but it was pretty nice. Keep up the good work, I will keep looking at the posts, very interesting stuff comes out sometimes.
SD Glenn

[furylee]

I didn?t have a jack for my 37 when I got it.  Someone on the P-15 site posted this (pic 1).

Armed with this I bought a jack like the one in the first post at a swap meet for $5 (pic 2).  I found the jack handle in the trunk of a 36 in a junk yard at the Wisconsin meet a couple of years ago.

When I got home, I looked at my owner?s manual, and it showed this exact jack, and where it was suppose to go (pic 3), on the bumper brace.  I saw one listed on eBay once that was painted green, and mine had places where I could see the original green paint, so I sand blasted it and painted it green.

I also have a original 41 coupe, and the jack in that looks like the one below labeled 1939-42.  The car is in my storage building, so I don?t currently have a picture of that one.

Hope this helps, Lee

[1930]

Mvair, I have those pict, what it is would be a set of instructions on the original tag that came with the jack, I am going to also asf for  a clearere pict. of the jack but the pict. on the instructions are VERY clear and I thnk you will be very pleased with this.  I cant post them here because i believe if I shrink them to the requirements they allow here it would take from the pict so if you give me your e-mail I will send them there.
Look at my request and see if you can be of any help or maybe you know of someone that can
I have found that the only way guys like myself and yourself can have these questions answered is if we all chip in with what we can

[1930]

Ok great, what I do when identifying any sort of tools with these cars is try and find three same model cars from three seperate parts of the country or best case scenario some sort of litearature that matches examples found or vise versa, if I find one that I feel is a good match than I say ok great, this is a good start, if I find two than I say chances are this is going to be the correct item and if I find three than I say prove me wrong and it is the right jack until proven otherwise.
Assuming you have a U Plymouth I believe this is going to be the jack you are looking for. This jack was identified first by Larry Olsen whom has spent a good portion of his life trying to identify these jacks and since then I have found it in one original ( in my opinion ) Plymouth U toolkit.
This jack I am under the impression was used 28-30, it is a flip top as can be seen which is similar to the Model A. I have only seen it in the one 29 U so i myself cannot confirm at this point that it was used on the 28 cars but Larry feels it was and thats better than any of us have had up until now. Hope it helps,
I know you prob. never will but if you ever decide to part with the bumper jack you have now I would like to find the proper home for it, it belongs with the correct car in my opinion. Thanks

BTW what did you mean by this....I truley enjoy Marks vidios
Also I may have confused you, I have a 29/30 Dodge Victoria, I dont own a Plymouth but with the sort of reaction I am getting on this forum I am starting to wonder why I dont. I also have a 52 Ford fire truck but thats another story
I want to add that I dont guess at too many things, I spend an amount of time researching these things that most people would not believe so I wont bother saying anymore. If I offer it than it is exactly how I offer it, I dont embelish things as i take this stuff pretty seriousely but it is something I enjoy

[SD Glenn]

I never get affended when anyone talks about the old Plymouths, I am way too new with this hobby in the Plymouths to know anything for sure, so will appreciate any pictures you have of Jacks, or anything to do with the Plymouth tools. (or Plymouths) I truley enjoy Marks vidios, and am looking for another car (a 35 thru 50 model year) to start working on and maybe do as good a job as Mark is doing (for next winter project). I am retired so I have plenty of time for this stuff. LOL I enjoy driving this 29 model a lot, I have put a lot of miles on it since spring and am planning a lot more, parades, etc this summer.  Post your 30 model, I would love to see it. Also the 40 model. Thanks
SD Glenn

[1930]

When I get it you will get it, guy described the perch you showed photo of, how about my request for some pict, can you help with any parts book data or photos?

[mvair]

Thanks. I DO NOT know for sure what the jack looks like for my car. There have been too many jacks passed between cars for me to have ever verified anything. Currently I have NO jack so any information you can provide would be very much appreciated.

Mark

[1930]

Mvair, I am unclear still as too know if you know what your correct jack looks like, if you dont than I did not either but it would seem that I have possibly found a picture of it and can post it when I receive it which will be this evening. I can also put you in touch if you like with a fellow that maybe has your jack, you may have to send him a photo, not sure if he knows which jack it would be otherwise, his name is Larry Olsen and he is truly the leader in the subject, alot of my knowledge came from him although he deals with too wide a variety of cars where I am sticking with Chrysler products only.
I find I am better able to learn more detailed info this way, he is also more of a dealer where I am in it for the fun and hopes that one day I will know to have helped people put their cars back to their original state.
Let me know

[RC Drown]

Opps, sorry about that, I misread you're first post,  :o

[1930]

Thanks for all the replys, hope there is more coming, I will try and address is order.
Quote.......... Looking at the parts book, there were three styles of jacks: Bumper Ratchet, Spring Ratchet, Axel Screw (at least between 1936 and 1948). The one supplied depended on the year. My car (1941) is supposed to have the Spring Ratchet Type. There is a clip on the spring cover that serves as a resting place for the jack head (see photo). I am not sure which type is shown in your photo, but I am guessing it is either for the spring or the axel type. I cannot be certain because I have never seen them all in one place and I still don't have one for my car..................Do you have photos of the three styles you mention??? Looks like you are doing a beutifull restoration on your car, thanks for the great photo, that is a new one on me as I have not spent much time on autos beyond 36. I have only touched on cars from 36 to 42. Your photo will be saved and will surely help someone in the future.
I am showing what was reffered to as a bumper jack used by Dodge 34-39 and Plymouth within that time frame as well, I believe that Plymouth went with the A.S ratchet type bumper jack ( that I show here in 39 but have yet to confirm this and according to your info ( which again I am hoping you will share ) was not the only style used.


RC Drown, thanks for commenting, I dont have a 40 Plymouth, if I did than I would certaintely post or e-mail you as many pict. as you desire. I have a 29/30 Dodge Brothers Victoria.

SD Glenn, thanks for posting, I have read your past posts and enjoyed them. great picture and you must be proud.
I hope you will not be offended when I tell you that the jack you are using is not correct for your car. I would be more than willing to show you what is correct for your car and it is more than an opinion, I have been studying early tool-kits for some time now but I am new here and wouldnt expect you to have any faith in what I have to offer.
If you would like to see a pict. though let me know

[SD Glenn]

The jack you have a picture of is the same jack I have, that came with my 29 Plymouth when I bought the car. It works perfect on the 29 model, as a bumper jack. You could probably sell that one to someone that has a 28 thru 30 model, as I would take a "swag" (scienecific wild assed guess) that would be the right one for those years, and does you not much good on the later model cars. My Granddaughter and Great Granddaughter and I went for a ride in my 29 yesterday, she wanted to show off her new baby. Three in the coupe does not leave much room for the car seat.... lol
Good luck
SD Glenn

[RC Drown]

I can't help you either with the jack, as I don't have the correct one, or for that matter one at all.  I use a bottle jack if necessary.

Since you have a 1940 Plymouth, would you mind posting some photos of it when you get a chance.

I have had a 1940 P-10 Business coupe for 23 years, a driver, but not a show car.  I average between 1500 to 2000 miles each year with the old girl

Thanks,
Bob

[mvair]

I have tried to figure this out too. It seems there are a lot of jacks floating around that may not have originally been matched to a particular car. Looking at the parts book, there were three styles of jacks: Bumper Ratchet, Spring Ratchet, Axel Screw (at least between 1936 and 1948). The one supplied depended on the year. My car (1941) is supposed to have the Spring Ratchet Type. There is a clip on the spring cover that serves as a resting place for the jack head (see photo). I am not sure which type is shown in your photo, but I am guessing it is either for the spring or the axel type. I cannot be certain because I have never seen them all in one place and I still don't have one for my car.

Mark

[1930]

Hello, new member here. Lots of great info is found on this site from lots of great people and it is appreciated...........
That said can someone direct me on where to look for this, a poster named darren made this post in 2008............. I have a 1940 Plymouth and on the General categry section I have a copy of the instructions on how and where to use the so called bumper jack .... And as you can see it is not on the BUMPER! ... GO figure! ... Happy Ply-mouthing DANiel..........My question is where is the copy of these instructions, I have searched all posts on this site but cannot find it, if not the bumper than where is the jack supposed to be placed
I have attached here the bumper jack I believe that is in question, unfortunately it does not lift the car high enough in most cases to place the fully aired up tire back onto the car, I have read thru other posts here that I am not the only person that has experienced this so my question is what am I doing wrong, I would find it hard to believe that these cars were issued a jack that simply would not work properly but please correct me if I am wrong. Thank-you