Body Mounitng Stud for '41

Started by mvair, July 29, 2008, 12:47:30 PM

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Go Fleiter

Dear mvair, I?m not skilled with metallurgie!
I just know of weakening steel structures by unsuited zink plating methods. We are not allowed here to zink plate frames without an expert?s structural survey and permission.
I know from own experience with boat quality stainless steel bolts, that they are amazingly weak. They stand much less footpounds than steel.
Than I know that You always must beware of contact corrosion with different metals. The beautiful 60ies Lancia Flaminia bodies by Carozzeria Touring (aluminium on steel tube scaffolding) suffer this enormously.
  Maybe You should ask a restauration firm?
Among our members,maybe
  James W   (J.Wayne Smith   Porterville, Central CA,39 PU street rods, restaurations) or
   Tim B   (Tim Bowers, Mc Pherson   KS, 38 P & , 56 Belv. 4dr, Oldie Resto teacher   
                          http://www.geocities.com/stellarrest/LinksPage.html ).
   joe pacheco of PA Hello my name is Joe Pacheco
I work at Marquis auto restorations
You can view the website at www.marquisautorestorations.com
I own a 1941 plymouth business coupe
The car has been modified and the frame has been altered
I would like to return it to its original condition
But the problem is that our frame books only go back to 1955
I would like to know if anyone has a copy of the measuements
And if they would to send me a copy this would really help
My email is any help will be apperciated
Thank You Joe Pacheco(
Living in Düsseldorf/Germany, retired Dentist, wife retired lawyer, 2 daughters Judge and psychologist, 3 Grandchilds-Sorry for bad English
I like- PennsyRR- travelling Europe in my very original 51 Ply- My whole basement HO Germany based Model Railroad- 50ties stuff- Italy
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Wm Steed

For the life of me I can't understand how I missed this topic.
My '39 Plym conv had the same shoulder stud in the hump over the rear axle. One of the studs broke when it was removed, I had a machinist make up a pair for my car, while he was at it he made up four extras, which I still have. The studs I have were made out of grade 8 quality steel....Bill
39 Plym. Conv. Coupe
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mvair

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Go,

From what I understand, the shear resistance of stainless steel is not totally defined, since the way it behaves under stress is very different from steel. I guess there have been new shear studies to develop engineering standards. I don't know if any of these studies apply to stainless steel rod. What is your understanding?

I was somewhat considerate of the possible differences. I put the new stud in the rear corner of the body and replaced all of the standard mounting bolts (one of which is just a few inches away in the trunk) with new grade 8 bolts (a total of 8 new bolts in addition to the other six mounting studs for a total of 14 attachment points).

I would be interested in more information and your thoughts on this solution.
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Go Fleiter

mvair, well done machine job. You surely have considered strength and shear resistance of stainless steel vs. steel. If less strong, put it in the least stressed place of all. Greetings! Go
Living in Düsseldorf/Germany, retired Dentist, wife retired lawyer, 2 daughters Judge and psychologist, 3 Grandchilds-Sorry for bad English
I like- PennsyRR- travelling Europe in my very original 51 Ply- My whole basement HO Germany based Model Railroad- 50ties stuff- Italy
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mvair

#3
I had no luck finding an original on short notice, so I took DANiel's advice and had one made a local machine shop. As you can see, it is a perfect match...and even in stainless steel. The cost of $20 seemed reasonable.
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darren

 :)   Call 1 360 260-0434   Dave at Fat Fender Relics  he should have one ...Looks like a easy machine shop job...  as a another avenue.good-luck .... Happy PLY-mouthing DANiel
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mvair

#1
I sent the body mounting hardware for my car out for replating. When I got it back, one of the studs (shown below) was missing. The company raked their tanks but could not find the part.

Does anyone have one of these available? I need it soon as the body is ready to go back on the chassis.

Thanks for your help.
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