Putting in a distributor/timing and oil filter

EJParauka · December 05, 2007, 08:23:47 AM

Where can I get a repair manual that will completely explain how to static time an engine? My Plymouth Service Manual (bought it on e-bay) has information, but I think there must be a more detailed book out there about this procedure. Any suggestions? Thanks, Ed P.

Go Fleiter · September 10, 2007, 11:34:17 AM

sorry, I missed cutting down the .jpg size, I try again:

Go Fleiter · September 09, 2007, 04:58:54 PM

relay sketch

mvair · September 09, 2007, 03:12:48 PM

The attached picture shows oil filter installation on a '41. The oil pressure tube is in the forward hole (located behind the oil filler tube) and is routed to connect with the instrument gauge just behind the oil filter. (The picture shows a grey cap on this connector.) The other two tubes go either into the top or bottom of the filter. The top hole is connected to the inlet on the top of the filter and the bottom hole to the bottom of the filter. The original specifications called for the tube from the bottom of the filter to go behind the starter and enter the block via a 45 degree elbow.

Go Fleiter · September 04, 2007, 12:51:00 AM

Jeff, the cloth hanger on the piston was it!
I carry a small folder in the car with a lot of notes for on-road help. This is my sketch to identify the disrtributor cables.
Greetings! Go

Plymouthcranbrook · September 04, 2007, 12:22:42 AM

The repair manual describes a procedure done by taking out the plug above the piston in number 6 cylinder and using a thin screwdriver or coat hanger straightened out inserted into the engine.? Slowly bump the starter until the rod goes as high as it can.? At that point the distributor should go in with the rotor pointing to the 7 o'clock position.? That should place number one at TDC as the? no 1 and 6 cylinders are exactly opposite in location(No. 1 in TDC, no. 6 in top of exhaust stroke).? You can double check location by looking into the No. 1 spark plug hole and making sure the valves are both closed.? If not cycle the engine one more full revolution and that should be it.? Some one can double check the manual for you as I am doing this from memory but either way it is a way to get close. Also the timing marks on the crankshaft pulley should be aligned with the pointer on the block at this point as well.

Go Fleiter · August 31, 2007, 01:12:27 PM

in my holidays this August in France, 8 shops didn?t want to help me putting a new point set. Really a lot of no helpful people on the Cote d? azur! So I got phone help from my home mechanics and did all in front of the fancy hotel (- Plymouth labeled red overall on hand) 1) cleaned the spark plug depressions from dust 2) pulled out the plugs 3)couldn?t turn by belt so put 3. gear 4) pushed the car by hand (no ignition key!!) to raise the contact at max. opening 5)put emergency brake on 6) and adjusted gap to specs. Which piston is TDC doesn?t matter at this point. If You have to determine the position of the whole distributor plus oil pump, You must decide if exhaust or compression TDC is on Cyl. 1. Forgot the procedure. Greetings! Go

57plymouth · August 31, 2007, 10:15:56 AM

Pull out your spark plugs and slowly turn the motor over by hand until the timing marks line up. If you don't have a large enough socket or adjustable wrench, then you can often turn the motor over by the belt drive when the plugs are out. It won't be easy but it can be done. You did set the oil pump in with the motor at TDC, right? If you didn't time the oil pump you won't get the distributor right.

36 Ply · August 31, 2007, 09:42:34 AM

I can possibly help with the second part of your question. I just went out to the garage and checked the canister oil filter on my '36 Plymouth, which has the original ('36) engine.

If you number the three oil lines 1, 2, and 3, with 1 being closest to the front of the engine:

#1 (behind the oil filler tube)? goes to the oil pressure gauge

#2 (by the dipstick, but a bit higher than #3)? goes to the top of the oil filter

#3 (by the dipstick, but enters the engine a bit lower than #2) goes to the bottom of the oil filter

I haven't gotten top dead center on an engine in 10 years, so I don't trust my answer on that one. A shop manual or MOTOR's manual should have the procedure.

Regards,

Pat O'Connor

lyleholmen · August 31, 2007, 03:28:39 AM

Hello:
Im new here, I just joined the club and the board. My son and I own a 39 Deluxe that has been in pieces for 30 years. We just had the engine rebuilt and are going to try and start it this weekend after we have everything hooked back up. My last automotive class was also 30 years ago in high school so excuse my ignorance. I need to put the distributor in and then I think I need to find TDC on number 1 cylinder. How do I get the engine to exactly TDC? I cant bump it with the starter as that just goes past it to fast. I cant get a wrench on the big nut at the front of the crankshaft. Any and all help is appreciated including important things to do when starting an engine after a rebuild.
Thanks for the help, you will be seeing more of me cause as I said this thing has been in pieces for 30 years. I got parts I have no idea where they came from.
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I also need to install an oil filter but not sure what tubes go where. I have a NOS oil filter made by DAL. It is a big red canister thing and is mounted on the drivers side of the engine. It has a fitting at the top and at the bottom for oil lines. I have three oil lines. One comes out of the engine toward the front of the engine. The other two come out of the engine near the dipstick. I know one of these needs to go to the oil pressure gauge and the other two must connect to my oil filter. Any ideas? If I hook them up wrong will I burn up my engine?