I put 45 miles on the 29 & have some questions.

Started by chetbrz, May 30, 2007, 10:31:47 AM

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30 Ply 30U

A picture tells a thousand words, so I'll post what I am refering too. Look at were your firewall paint line is. In POC under the hood judging, there would be a deduction for your current paint line. It shoud be under your cowl lace.
Patrick
30U Sedan X 3
30U convertiable coupe
50 p-19 Bus coupe
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30U sedan

Quote from: 30 Ply 30U on June 25, 2007, 07:47:54 PM
I think now would be the time to tell you. The paint line between firewall and body color is under the cowl webbing. Your body paint is a little too far forward, but could be fixed very easy at this point. The progress on your car is looking great!


Not sure what you are referring to....... Please explain ???.
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30 Ply 30U

I think now would be the time to tell you. The paint line between firewall and body color is under the cowl webbing. Your body paint is a little too far forward, but could be fixed very easy at this point. The progress on your car is looking great!
Patrick
30U Sedan X 3
30U convertiable coupe
50 p-19 Bus coupe
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chetbrz

Quote from: TodFitch on June 14, 2007, 02:46:03 AM
Quote from: 30U sedan on June 13, 2007, 10:35:45 PM
Finally, a few pictures of the new paint. What do you think? I thought it came out looking pretty good 8).

Looks very nice to me.

I agree..,? Really like the two tone paint job.? It came out great.? ?

Chet...
Chester Brzostowski -- 1948P15 SpD & 1929 Model U Plymouths - Collector of vehicular lawn ornaments.? http://www.1948Plymouth.info   -   http://www.1948plymouth.info/28Q29U/
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TodFitch

Quote from: 30U sedan on June 13, 2007, 10:35:45 PM
Finally, a few pictures of the new paint. What do you think? I thought it came out looking pretty good 8).

Looks very nice to me.
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30U sedan

Finally, a few pictures of the new paint. What do you think? I thought it came out looking pretty good 8).
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TodFitch

1935 PJ - black
1936 P1, P2 - I don't know
1937 P3, P4 - body color.
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John Hendricks

Since u have been researching paint, have u discerned which year Plymouth stopped painting the firewall black and went with the body color?
John Hendricks
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30U sedan

I went by the paint shop today to see how the 30U was coming along. When I saw it I couldn't believe how good it was looking. All of the doors were done and they were blocking the body so it could get paint by this weekend. The shop owner is really doing a good job. I told him that alot of folks will ask who did the paint job so I guess he wants its to look extra nice. I will post picturesas soon as I can.
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chetbrz

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Your car is going to look great.? The body came out really nice.? Once my 48 is finished I will do a complete restoration to the 29.? The wood substructure needs some tender loving care.? ? I can?t wait to see your finished product.? ?Well anyway for the next couple of years I will just have to continue to collect spare parts.

Chet...
Chester Brzostowski -- 1948P15 SpD & 1929 Model U Plymouths - Collector of vehicular lawn ornaments.? http://www.1948Plymouth.info   -   http://www.1948plymouth.info/28Q29U/
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30U sedan

I like the get a new car reply  :). And I can relate to the hand signals. I sometimes think the younger generation have no ideal what a hand signal is. Anyway I will post a picture as soon as the paint job is done. I can hardly wait to see it myself. Here is a before picture of the body after being loaded onto the trailer that will take it to the paint shop.
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chetbrz

Quote from: 30U sedan on May 30, 2007, 11:47:19 PM
Sounds like you had a great drive. My 30U is getting paint this week, so maybe it won't be long before I can experience the thrill myself.? ;D

With the windows down and stopped at a light almost every time the driver next to you will either say nice car or just give you the thumbs up.? ?I started to get creative with my responses.? One fellow yelled over to me ?Nice Car?? I responded, ? Thanks ?, but some day when I have the money I am going to buy a new car.., but until then,? guess I will just have to keep my old ride going.?

Of course while driving especially when make turns I have received a number of other hand signals, not quite sure what all of them mean but I am sure they are signs of appreciation for antique cars?

Post a picture when she gets home from the paint shop.

Chet?
Chester Brzostowski -- 1948P15 SpD & 1929 Model U Plymouths - Collector of vehicular lawn ornaments.? http://www.1948Plymouth.info   -   http://www.1948plymouth.info/28Q29U/
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30U sedan

Sounds like you had a great drive. My 30U is getting paint this week, so maybe it won't be long before I can experience the thrill myself.? ;D
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David Pollock

Thermo siphon radiators should be hot at the top and cold at the bottom if they are doing their job. Sounds like your first 45 miles out was pretty successful. Congratulations.  If you are going to take the starter off, do it somewhere you can roll the car to start it. If the noise is gone, then you have isolated the problem.   My 35 would do that but it has a "positive shift "starter and the pedal was not returning all the way so the starter gear would hit the ring gear. Your car has a bendix drive which may just need a good cleaning.
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chetbrz

Quote from: TodFitch on May 30, 2007, 12:37:21 PM
I don't have much experience with a thermosyphon system. It seems that since it did not lose water that it was not seriously overheating. I don't have my manuals with me but I vaguely recall that the automatic spark advance came in with the freewheeling transmission on the PA. So I think your car has a manual spark advance. One more skill set in driving is setting the spark correctly for your road conditions, but at least you can adjust it from the driver's seat. :)

Regarding the noise in the bellhousing: Maybe the starter motor drive pinion is bouncing against the flywheel. Is the return spring on the starter motor drive pinion weak or broken?

Tod,

I forgot about the started motor.? That sounds exactly like the type of thing that would create that type of noise.? ?If the gear is bouncing between the Flywheel and the Starter motor.., due to a broken return spring, that sure would explain the noise.? I will pull the starter out over the weekend.? The last owner really abused the starter since he had the timing all screwed up.?

By Joe I think you got it and on the first try? :)

Lots of squeaks and rattles that I am just becoming familiar with.? ?Having a lot of fun and drove the car to work this afternoon.? ?Nobody following, just me , the car, lots of tools, some water, and a tow strap.

Tks,? Chet?
Chester Brzostowski -- 1948P15 SpD & 1929 Model U Plymouths - Collector of vehicular lawn ornaments.? http://www.1948Plymouth.info   -   http://www.1948plymouth.info/28Q29U/
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TodFitch

I don't have much experience with a thermosyphon system. It seems that since it did not lose water that it was not seriously overheating. I don't have my manuals with me but I vaguely recall that the automatic spark advance came in with the freewheeling transmission on the PA. So I think your car has a manual spark advance. One more skill set in driving is setting the spark correctly for your road conditions, but at least you can adjust it from the driver's seat. :)

Regarding the noise in the bellhousing: Maybe the starter motor drive pinion is bouncing against the flywheel. Is the return spring on the starter motor drive pinion weak or broken?
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chetbrz

Since I have little operational experience with a 1929 Plymouth I was curious about a few things.

Question 1: This drive was a 28 mile run driving at an average of 45mph with few stops.

As learned earlier the radiator doesn?t stay filled to the top and will find it?s own level.? I didn?t have an apparent problem with over heating but it was an 85 degree day and the last 15 miles it appeared that the engine sounded like it was running hot.? ?I can?t explain the sound just a familiar sound of a block running hot.? The next day I could only fit in a Quart of water which quickly spilled out once the engine got hot.

The radiator was cool on the bottom and hot on the top upon completion of the run which I believe is normal.? Does this sound normal and if not will adjusting the timing help. ?

Question 2:? Noise in the bell housing:

The bell housing sounds like it has marbles bouncing around inside.? ?The noise doesn?t appear to be coming from the engine and was there prior to changing the transmission.? I didn?t find anything loose and kinda suspect the clutch arm in the bell housing vibrating or the throw-out bearing bouncing on the clutch arm that depresses the pressure plate. ???? ? Anybody have any ideas?

Chet?
Chester Brzostowski -- 1948P15 SpD & 1929 Model U Plymouths - Collector of vehicular lawn ornaments.? http://www.1948Plymouth.info   -   http://www.1948plymouth.info/28Q29U/
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