41 plymouth history and identification

[hotrodguy34]

yes,
that dash really caused me some headaches when i was trying to get a glove box for it. i didn't know it was a p-15 dash, and bought glovebox for a p10-p12.
Chuck

[Roadkingcoupe]

NOW THE REAL CONFUSING ONE IT HAS A LATER MODEL DASH IN IT (46-48)??  the only thing i can think of is a custom install, but it looks like it grew there. nothing cobbled,all brackets seem correct cowl vent linkage etc

Chuck ------

That is a P15 dash in your vehicle. In a true hot rodding fashion, the reason that its there.......because it fits. The 46-48 dashboards were interchangeable with the 40 and 41 Plymouths. Although not "correct" it fits and looks pretty good.

[RC Drown]

yes, P15-D24 is the website, just Google it, the it will take a day or two to be onsite, once you register

[hotrodguy34]

on the road is what it's all about!! i just like driving the old cars, which is why i alter them. i like to run down the highway at a minimum of 70. i usually put on around 5000 miles a year on the oldies. the plymee will probably be the last one i do, but in my eyes , it's a keeper. i've always loved mopars, since i was drag racing my 63 330 in 1966. got away from them for quite a while as i was more into the street rod thing with the bow tie engines, but not to worry, the plymee will stay all mopar, just not sure what yet. thinking i would really like the slant six in there with a turbo, or supercharger.
it still has an original flatty and trhee speed in it. i know it's not the original as the previous owner  replaced a bad motor.. the motor is real sweet, runs like a champ, and will cruise all day at 70 since i replaced the rear end with 3:23 gears at 3,000 rpm's.
i have my 34 for sale, and gave the 47 ford to my son, so soon it'll just be me and the plymee, and i'll have more time to dedicate to it..
is that the name of the website? p15d24?, i'll check it out.
thasnks for your comments.

Chuck

[RC Drown]

Nice car is right, so good to see another Plymouth saved and on the road, even if it isn't original, not a problem in my eyes, keep us posted on your progress, also I would like to second Greg's suggestion that you check out and join the P15'D24 website, you most likely will go more positive remarks on that site. 

I don't remember if you mentioned what engine is in it now, but the flatties are a darn good engine, and there are speed equipment upgrades for those engines.

My thoughts and again, welcome,
Bob

[hotrodguy34]

nice car,
no, i know the bumbers aren't right. i don't want to piss any resroters off, but i AM a street rodder. i've had this car for about 3 years. the bumbers were real bad when i got it, so i bought some "briz" bumbers, they are repro's of the later desoto bumpers' and the brackets have been shoutened about 2".
i'm in wisconsin,  i just finished painting the car yesterdat, these atr older puics. it's now " hotrod black", thats basecoat clearcoat with a deadened clear coat for a matte finish. i've already installed a 68 8 3/4 posi rearend, and haven't gotten around to the engine and trans yet. as i'm getting a little older now, i'm not so concerned with thne big burnouts, so i'm thinking about a slant six. if i want speed, i have a steel 34 ford with 500 h.p. in it to handle that job. i have three of them here, and a a 833 overdrive trans. it still may get a hemi though. the running  boards have been filled and smoothed, and done in truck bed liner.
  as i was suspecting, the dash may have been retrofitted. it lookss real good in there though.
thanks for the reply.
Chuck

[plym_46]

The dash looks to be a p15 (46- early 49 P15) the bumpers are also not 41.  the wheels look like the Wheelvitique smoothies I have on my P15.  What is the engine number?  It on the block just above the generator. The cowl shape on the cars stayed relativly constant from 40 to 48, so the dash board swap was a pretty easy swap.

You also might want to take a look at the P14 - D25 board.  Lotsa Plymouth and Dodge and other flathead mopar info there.

Where are you located?  Us business coupe guys need to stick together.

[hotrodguy34]

hey thats great. thanks for the info. now i know what it was when it was born.
Chuck

[TodFitch]

hey thats great, that should tell me all. i'll get the serial now and post it. hopefully someone here knows how to interpert it.
i  the vin is      3132225

See my web site at: http://www.ply33.com/Misc/vin
Or my experimental version for the next generation of that page at: http://www.ply33.com/Misc/decode

Serial Number: 3132225
Found in range: 3,121,501 to 3,133,962
Serial: 10725 of 12462
Year: 1941
Make: Plymouth
Model Name: DeLuxe
Model Code: P11
Plant: Los Angeles
Engine: 6 cylinder 201.3 cu.in. L-head
Wheelbase: 117 inches

[hotrodguy34]

hey thats great, that should tell me all. i'll get the serial now and post it. hopefully someone here knows how to interpert it.
i  the vin is      3132225

[TodFitch]

Serial number tag should be on the passenger door hinge post. By the range of numbers that it fits in you can tell what the engineering code (model) it is and factory it was built in.

[RC Drown]

Contact Jim Benjaminson, he is very knowledgeable on the 40's Plymouths, you should be able to find his email address in the members section, if not email me at and I will give it to you.

By the way, welcome to the POC, it is a good place, although not as many posts as the p15-d24 website gets, but still the members are very helpful and again, knowledgeable.

The Special DeLuxe was surely a 1941 model, but not sure of the pecking order of the '41's

[hotrodguy34]

thanks bob,
another strange thing then. i know it is a deluxe, but no trim around the windshield? possibly removed in past years. i wish these old cars could talk, i'd love to hear their sayories!!
the emblem below the hood is "special deluxe", but i'm not sure if it is the correct one or not. easily replaced.

[RC Drown]

The '40 Plymouths were P-9's and P-10's with the P-10 being the more expensive model.  The P-10's had a stainless steel moldings around the windshield , where the P-9's didn't. Plus a few other things.  The P-11's and P-12's were 1941 models.

The P-9 were called the Roadkings.

I have attached a photo of the dash out of my '40 P-10 Business coupe.  It isn't the correct woodgraining, but then again, I did it myself, and it is what I wanted


Can you post some photos?

Hope this helps,
Bob

[hotrodguy34]

hi,
i'm new to this forum, but thought it would be a good place to get information on a few things that have been bugging me about my 40-41 plymouth.
this car spent it's whole life in california, except a few years in arizona where is where i got it from. now currently in wisconsin.
it is titled as a 1940 (oct of 1940), but there is no doubt that it is a 1941 the body number matches the title. i know that they use to start building the new models a few months early, so that isn't the issue. i am just wondering why it is titled as 1940 instead of 1941?? possibly thats the way they did it in california, by registration date, not model year.
NOW THE REAL CONFUSING ONE IT HAS A LATER MODEL DASH IN IT (46-48)??  the only thing i can think of is a custom install, but it looks like it grew there. nothing cobbled,allbrackets seem correct cowl vent linkage etc
now my next one ::::  it is a buisness coupe, but i am confused on the model   p10-p11-p12 i don't really know where this one falls. i know it's not the original engine though.
i would appreciate any input from anyone that knows a little more about the plymouth history
thanks in advance
Chuck ------