Is this where the prices of our Plymouths are going?

[Jim Benjaminson]

Barrett-Jackson sold a 70 Hemi Cuda convertible the other night for two million bucks....considering that engine was an $800+ option in 1970, that's pretty good appreciation on one's money....

[Joe Godec]

???? ?How about that red/white '60 Fury droptop that just went for $54+K at Barrett-Jackson? It had just the weak little 230 horse 318, the engine bay was the wrong color, the engine block was gold rather than silver, the steering wheel was recast in white rather than clear, and it had those "old man" (read "dorky") wire wheels with chrome skirts! And it was supposed to be a professional restoration! Another demonstration that some people have more dollars than sense, but also is indicative that affluent baby boomers are looking at the cars they remember as kids.

[POC-Admin]

The auction ended - no bidders - seems right.  Nice car but only worth about 2/3 that amount at the very most.

[mspcustom]

I have seen that a 1955 Plymouth Belvedere 2 door hardtop will be going up for auction at BJ on 14-22 Jan.  I am curious to see what it brings.

MSPcustom

[Mopar Al]

It's a crime the way prices of ALL the cars is going up == up == up...  This is supposed to be a fun thing to do.    It is sad that so many have turned our car''s  into a money making scheme.  I do not  promote such things as buying and/or selling old cars for profit.   The money people (and you know who you are)   are ruining a great american hobby.   Take your $$$ and go on a world cruise, and stay out of our hobby.   Any of you old timers remember when you started this club years ago,   IT was NOT intended to be your route to retirment...  IT was intended to FUN, then and after retirment.    When $$ get involved in anything ,  it is always doomed.  Admit it or not, YOU KNOW IT's TRUE.........                         
                                                                        Merry Christmas    Mopar Al

[Joe Godec]

A Jag, MG, or Healy without wires is definitely a no-go -- those cars definitely demand them. 

[Plymouthcranbrook]

Just a quick note, in my youth I loved British Sports cars and yes tubes were required on wire wheels.  No way to seal the spoke holes tightly enough.

[Joe Godec]

I dunno about the air cleaner -- it doesn't look too bad except for the snorkle, but I? remember the block on 318s to be silver with a red air cleaner, but at my age, who knows?
The things that really get me are the wire wheels.? They may have been a "dealer installed" option or even a factory option (perish the thought!), but in 1960 they were pretty well on their way out and some of us even then thought they were pretty much "dorky" (more suited for the 300, 300B, and Imperial set). "In" wheels were Hallibrand mags or perhaps chromed reversed jobs with baby moons; failing that, plain steel wheels with '59 Dodge Lancer "spinners" were pretty nice or even the standard wheels painted red or left black with baby moons.? Wires were supposed to require tubes (I have no idea as to how true that is/was) and the wire spokes were not supposed to be up to the torque of the bigger mills.? The guys I knew who drove '60 Plymmers back then would never have been caught dead with wires, now matter how nice they may look now.?
That trunk treatment is gauche, but to each his own.? Wonder where he got the material -- looks pretty good.

[POC-Admin]

Ok,  I see total wrong engine color, wrong engine bay treatment - black everywhere, Wrong trunk treatment - the glued stuff on the lid and some of the other panels don't look kosher.  I guess the air cleaner is wrong too but not sure.  Also the wheels are questionable - did Plymouth offer wires from the factory in 1960?

What did you get???

[Joe Godec]

The Barrett-Jackson auction can SOMETIMES be a barometer for car values, but only in the sense of whether they going up or down or remaining stable.  That 300G that went for $190K last year sorta indicates to me that the rarer cars of the late 50s and early 60s are starting to attract attention -- however, I think that $190K is more a result of the "feeding frenzy" atmosphere of the event rather than a true value. 
But I do think there are just too many "triple-nickle" Chevys and cloned '64-'65 "Goats" around for them to genereate any interest.
And, BTW, I spotted FOUR mistakes on that '60 Fury droptop!   

[Captain Cranbrook]

I've seen quite a few auctions like this on eBay.? My theory is that the seller is fishing for bidders to contact after the auction is over to negotiate a sale.

[POC-Admin]

I was surfing the eBay listings and could not help but comment on this car.  It is a very good example of a car restored without any regard for originality - only profit.  See if anyone else thinks the "museum" that is selling this has popped a gasket somewhere - OPG puts the value of a perfect 1960 Fury vert at $24,000.00 - this guy wants twice that for one with incorrect restoration at least three places I can see.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Plymouth-Fury-Fury-1960-Plymouth-Fury-Convertible-Santas-sled_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6411QQitemZ4596603055QQrdZ1

Of course I do want to see if it sells.