My 1929 U Restoration Thread

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Go Fleiter

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Yours is a beautiful team, unfortunately not living next door to their Grandpa!
  Here are mine, Helena and Aenias (father is greek).
Aenias always at the controls: rocket flyer or Ply driver,
leaving inadequate transportation behind:

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he had permission to toot the horn twice!

This one without vehicle- but self flying:

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This bouncing giraffe castle (My shop compressor for the Ply is useful!)
is loved most- and on those days Grandpa is the greatest -in spite of incomplete landing!!
Greetings to all Grandpas and Mas and others!
Go
Living in Düsseldorf/Germany, retired Dentist, wife retired lawyer, 2 daughters Judge and psychologist, 3 Grandchilds-Sorry for bad English
I like- PennsyRR- travelling Europe in my very original 51 Ply- My whole basement HO Germany based Model Railroad- 50ties stuff- Italy
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RC Drown

speaking of grandchildren, my three from Oklahoma when they were home last montn
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twpoulter

Grand kids are every thing, we have 5, three boys and two girls, the oldest boy of thirteen, he shadows me all the time one of those kids that will not grow away, I have 2 Morris/ Austin minis that I hope I will find enough time to build one for him. I have so many grown-up toys waiting to be finished, steaming ahead with my 41 Pick-up to the stage where it is now in my workshop, hope to remove the cab next week.
Tom in the UK       1933 PDX R/S Coupe RHD
1934 PE PU if there was one              1941 PT125 
  https://ctrestorations.com/
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chetbrz

Tom, I'm told that "He who dies with the most toys wins".  Personally I don't think you actually need a lot of toys just need to play with them once and awhile.  Grand Kids are a great excuse. 

Cheers, Chet...
Chester Brzostowski -- 1948P15 SpD & 1929 Model U Plymouths - Collector of vehicular lawn ornaments.? http://www.1948Plymouth.info   -   http://www.1948plymouth.info/28Q29U/
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twpoulter

chet you are very fortunate to have toys from your childhood, I have a couple of tin toys which were always at my grand mothers which came to me when she passed, an Ambulance and single decker Bus, they are at the top of our stairs in a cabinet and only come out for dusting. Nostalgia funny how things return to you mind of bygone days when your memory is jogged.

Any great progress made on the 29 lately, why does everything take so long, but there I have a friend just south of Nashville, been restoring high end cars for comming on 45 yrs, has a large purpose built unit and works on his own, some of his jobs are in the shop several yrs for various reasons. One is a large RR customer passed about 5 yrs ago just before it was finished, told to sell it by the executors but not a lot of call for a RHD in the States.

Mind wandered there Chet sorry.
Tom in the UK       1933 PDX R/S Coupe RHD
1934 PE PU if there was one              1941 PT125 
  https://ctrestorations.com/
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chetbrz


Great pictures Tom I wish I know more about the history of my car. 

Frank, the motor is just about finished.  Its in final assembly and paint.

Go, Always nice to hear from you.  PS my grand kids are up from Florida and I set up my old Lionel Trains so they can play with the same toys I played with as a kid.  I believe you like model railroading.  Anyway the trains have taken over the den.  Running around the furniture and distracting the kids from the video games, internet, and TV.  Nothing like the sound of a train whistle to get your imagination to run wild.

Chet..
Chester Brzostowski -- 1948P15 SpD & 1929 Model U Plymouths - Collector of vehicular lawn ornaments.? http://www.1948Plymouth.info   -   http://www.1948plymouth.info/28Q29U/
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Go Fleiter

#114
always like to read Your progresses!
Go
Living in Düsseldorf/Germany, retired Dentist, wife retired lawyer, 2 daughters Judge and psychologist, 3 Grandchilds-Sorry for bad English
I like- PennsyRR- travelling Europe in my very original 51 Ply- My whole basement HO Germany based Model Railroad- 50ties stuff- Italy
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Frank2

Wonderful pictures, Tom.

Chet,  You're making great progress.  How's your engine coming along?

frank
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twpoulter

#112
Hi chet so true what you say on my 33 PD R/S coupe all the side mount tin wear and iron were missing, they were there in 1970 when it was rescued in South Africa but not when it came to the UK in 2002. they took me 4 yrs to find in the States, only draw back is that they are not identical yet. Keep up the good work, onward and upwards. 

Thought to be when new                                                                                   When found in 1970 near Bloemfontein SA

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Tom in the UK       1933 PDX R/S Coupe RHD
1934 PE PU if there was one              1941 PT125 
  https://ctrestorations.com/
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twpoulter

Quote from: 28 Ply.cpe on June 19, 2018, 10:01:22 AM
Hi Chet, I've been reading your thread,   G00D work. In 1972 I started on mine. a 28 Ply. Coupe. I went through the same as you. Became a carpenter on this car and then a body man. Back then no internet to find parts or group info on the car . I wish I would of taken more pictures to show like you. I do have many polaroid and kodak pictures in a box and on a story board. I finally finished in 1998  You have done wonders.  Thank you for sharing.

Funny thinking back to old celluloid film, I used to use 35mm 36 exp. take them to the chemist and back they come in about a week, then you would find half of them were rubbish. Thing in favour is that I have more 30 years worth of packets of photos with their film, today you can take one hundred photos and lose them in a second
Tom in the UK       1933 PDX R/S Coupe RHD
1934 PE PU if there was one              1941 PT125 
  https://ctrestorations.com/
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chetbrz

Thanks for the kind comments.

What I find challenging about this car is there is very little that can be found as repro parts.  It seems you can find anything you might need for the Model A, either wooden frame reproes or any and all metal parts.  I spent the last 10 years acquiring original restorable parts when I was lucky enough to stumbled across them.  Which wasn't very often.  Now I can maybe get the planets to align so I can get this car purring again.  Hopefully the documentation can maybe help someone else down the road.

Chet...
Chester Brzostowski -- 1948P15 SpD & 1929 Model U Plymouths - Collector of vehicular lawn ornaments.? http://www.1948Plymouth.info   -   http://www.1948plymouth.info/28Q29U/
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28 Ply.cpe

Hi Chet, I've been reading your thread,   G00D work. In 1972 I started on mine. a 28 Ply. Coupe. I went through the same as you. Became a carpenter on this car and then a body man. Back then no internet to find parts or group info on the car . I wish I would of taken more pictures to show like you. I do have many polaroid and kodak pictures in a box and on a story board. I finally finished in 1998  You have done wonders.  Thank you for sharing.
1928 Model Q Business Coupe
1949 P-18 Special Deluxe 4 door
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twpoulter

Nice work Chet as always, like the way you detailed the way you went about it. Keep the good work up.
Tom in the UK       1933 PDX R/S Coupe RHD
1934 PE PU if there was one              1941 PT125 
  https://ctrestorations.com/
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chetbrz

Prep for Paint - Upper Door Frame Repairs.

Due to the length of this task and the number of pictures I posted a link to the blow by blow description below:

http://www.1948plymouth.info/1929/Work_files/2018/06102018.htm



Chet...
Chester Brzostowski -- 1948P15 SpD & 1929 Model U Plymouths - Collector of vehicular lawn ornaments.? http://www.1948Plymouth.info   -   http://www.1948plymouth.info/28Q29U/
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chetbrz

LOL.., I know what you are talking about.  Unfortunately doing a restoration by yourself is like moving an elephant with a toothpick.  You need a lot of time and patience.  My wife has become a good helper and second set of hands.  Dirt doesn't touch her hands either.., she has gloves.  :) 
Chester Brzostowski -- 1948P15 SpD & 1929 Model U Plymouths - Collector of vehicular lawn ornaments.? http://www.1948Plymouth.info   -   http://www.1948plymouth.info/28Q29U/
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twpoulter

Chet, I knew I should have talked to you before, I now know where I've been going wrong. Bob Drown keeps telling me to just get one driving but I can't decide which one and those jobs around the house, that's another story. The lists gets longer as I get older, I do have a 13 yr old Grandson but he gets easily bored and his hands have never seen dirt.

Tom.
Tom in the UK       1933 PDX R/S Coupe RHD
1934 PE PU if there was one              1941 PT125 
  https://ctrestorations.com/
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chetbrz

I understand what you are saying.  I try to stay focused on one thing otherwise I take on too much and then get nothing done.., or it seems that way.  With all the projects around the house I can only focus on one car at a time and try to stay with it until done.  Unfortunately my 48 needs some attention but it will have to wait.  At least I can drive it if I can find the time.

Chet...
Chester Brzostowski -- 1948P15 SpD & 1929 Model U Plymouths - Collector of vehicular lawn ornaments.? http://www.1948Plymouth.info   -   http://www.1948plymouth.info/28Q29U/
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twpoulter

#103
Quote from: chetbrz on May 28, 2018, 07:37:23 PM
Tom in a word, Retired.

Chet I've been retired since 2013 when I worked 4 shift but since I've been restoring cars I have no spare time at all, and now I thinking of buying a P15C Club Coupe but the price has got to be right and I would like it to be a driver, don't need to restore any more.
Tom in the UK       1933 PDX R/S Coupe RHD
1934 PE PU if there was one              1941 PT125 
  https://ctrestorations.com/
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chetbrz

Chester Brzostowski -- 1948P15 SpD & 1929 Model U Plymouths - Collector of vehicular lawn ornaments.? http://www.1948Plymouth.info   -   http://www.1948plymouth.info/28Q29U/
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twpoulter

#101
Great work but I don't know how you get time to write the information up and keep your workshop so tidy. Perhaps you could write another blog on time management.

Thanks to posting.
Tom in the UK       1933 PDX R/S Coupe RHD
1934 PE PU if there was one              1941 PT125 
  https://ctrestorations.com/
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Go Fleiter

Living in Düsseldorf/Germany, retired Dentist, wife retired lawyer, 2 daughters Judge and psychologist, 3 Grandchilds-Sorry for bad English
I like- PennsyRR- travelling Europe in my very original 51 Ply- My whole basement HO Germany based Model Railroad- 50ties stuff- Italy
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chetbrz

Quote from: Bill Davis on May 26, 2018, 11:12:54 PM
Chet,

I enjoy reading about your restoration work.  At the end of this restoration, you will be a walking
Model U encyclopedia.

LOL .., Thanks  Bill, but I think the memory is one of the first things to go.   :(
Chester Brzostowski -- 1948P15 SpD & 1929 Model U Plymouths - Collector of vehicular lawn ornaments.? http://www.1948Plymouth.info   -   http://www.1948plymouth.info/28Q29U/
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Bill Davis

Chet,

I enjoy reading about your restoration work.  At the end of this restoration, you will be a walking
Model U encyclopedia. 
-Bill Davis, Killen,AL
1951 Plymouth P-23 Cambridge 4 door
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chetbrz

Prep for Paint - Door Repairs.

Lots of things going on this spring but did manage to fit in some car progress.
Due to the length of this task and the number of pictures I posted a link to the blow by blow description below:

http://www.1948plymouth.info/1929/Work_files/2018/05232018.htm



Chet...
Chester Brzostowski -- 1948P15 SpD & 1929 Model U Plymouths - Collector of vehicular lawn ornaments.? http://www.1948Plymouth.info   -   http://www.1948plymouth.info/28Q29U/
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chetbrz

Chester Brzostowski -- 1948P15 SpD & 1929 Model U Plymouths - Collector of vehicular lawn ornaments.? http://www.1948Plymouth.info   -   http://www.1948plymouth.info/28Q29U/
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twpoulter

Hope I haven't distracted you from your mission, you mentioned about parts, how's this
Tom in the UK       1933 PDX R/S Coupe RHD
1934 PE PU if there was one              1941 PT125 
  https://ctrestorations.com/
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chetbrz

#94
Quote from: Frank2 on April 18, 2018, 10:13:16 AM
Chet,  Is that a rear window frame in twpoulter's picture?   frank

I would say Yes...  But that's the remains of the rear skin's body flange around the window.., not the interior finish frame.  It's amazing that the shade is still there and the mounting brackets.  I feel like a buzzard flying over a rotting carcass with my mouth watering.   
Chester Brzostowski -- 1948P15 SpD & 1929 Model U Plymouths - Collector of vehicular lawn ornaments.? http://www.1948Plymouth.info   -   http://www.1948plymouth.info/28Q29U/
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Frank2

Chet,  Is that a rear window frame in twpoulter's picture?   frank
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chetbrz

Wow, great pictures. Maybe a few usable parts rotting away.
Chester Brzostowski -- 1948P15 SpD & 1929 Model U Plymouths - Collector of vehicular lawn ornaments.? http://www.1948Plymouth.info   -   http://www.1948plymouth.info/28Q29U/
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twpoulter

#91
 

  • Regarding a rubber seal the only thing on my 33 PD is a channel in the top of the door to accept a square rubber insert
  • The only thing on mine is the windlass piping

The photos won't help you but they were sent to me by a friends daughter that liver in Ottawa Quebec. Yes it's a model U
Tom in the UK       1933 PDX R/S Coupe RHD
1934 PE PU if there was one              1941 PT125 
  https://ctrestorations.com/
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chetbrz

Tom,

Thanks for the suggestion.  Before it goes to the painter I'll mask the dash.  Since it is vacant of any components I can easily remove it, sand, and repaint.  Actually another member offered to send me an old damaged dash he had that I could use instead of mine.  I truly appreciate the help and interest of club members and non-members alike.  This car is turning out to be a very collaborative effort. 

Currently looking for info about the following:

Question:

  • Was there weather stripping around the door frames.  If so, anyone have any pictures ?
  • Also interested in how the hinge pillars are weather sealed ?   
  • Was there a metal rear window frame, I don't believe I have one.

Any info or pictures of original interior is greatly appreciated. 

Chet...
Chester Brzostowski -- 1948P15 SpD & 1929 Model U Plymouths - Collector of vehicular lawn ornaments.? http://www.1948Plymouth.info   -   http://www.1948plymouth.info/28Q29U/
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twpoulter

Great progress as always just thoroughly enjoy the way you set all the various steps on your website, I hope this new website will soon be working to the same standard. Regarding your concern over moving the car without supporting the the steering wheel might it be an idea to suspend a couple of ties from the roof laths and one up from the floor to give you 3 point contact. My PD has it's body on 6" riser blocks and I have used that method to move it several times.
Tom in the UK       1933 PDX R/S Coupe RHD
1934 PE PU if there was one              1941 PT125 
  https://ctrestorations.com/
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chetbrz

The Roof Lath

I took advantage of the summer like weather and made some incremental progress to the old car.
Due to the length of this task and the number of pictures I posted a link to the blow by blow description below:

http://www.1948plymouth.info/1929/Work_files/2018/04052018.htm



Chet...
Chester Brzostowski -- 1948P15 SpD & 1929 Model U Plymouths - Collector of vehicular lawn ornaments.? http://www.1948Plymouth.info   -   http://www.1948plymouth.info/28Q29U/
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Go Fleiter

again, I admire the quality and pace of Your work!
Greetings from D?sseldorf!
Go
Living in Düsseldorf/Germany, retired Dentist, wife retired lawyer, 2 daughters Judge and psychologist, 3 Grandchilds-Sorry for bad English
I like- PennsyRR- travelling Europe in my very original 51 Ply- My whole basement HO Germany based Model Railroad- 50ties stuff- Italy
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chetbrz

Thanks Bob, I hope everything is going well on your end.
Chester Brzostowski -- 1948P15 SpD & 1929 Model U Plymouths - Collector of vehicular lawn ornaments.? http://www.1948Plymouth.info   -   http://www.1948plymouth.info/28Q29U/
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RC Drown

looking good my friend, I wish I had your talent
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chetbrz

The Roof Progress

Due to the length of this task and the number of pictures I posted two links to the blow by blow description below:

http://www.1948plymouth.info/1929/Work_files/2018/03162018.htm



http://www.1948plymouth.info/1929/Work_files/2018/03282018.htm




Chet...
Chester Brzostowski -- 1948P15 SpD & 1929 Model U Plymouths - Collector of vehicular lawn ornaments.? http://www.1948Plymouth.info   -   http://www.1948plymouth.info/28Q29U/
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chetbrz

Thanks for the at-a-boys.

I hope my errors and successes help someone else working to save one of theses old cars from the crusher.

Chet...
Chester Brzostowski -- 1948P15 SpD & 1929 Model U Plymouths - Collector of vehicular lawn ornaments.? http://www.1948Plymouth.info   -   http://www.1948plymouth.info/28Q29U/
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twpoulter

Great to see the blow by blow account of your work, very detailed with lots of photos. Thanks for taking us along this journey with you.  As an aside I am hoping when the new site is launched, if ever, we will be able to document are threads adding the photos as we go instead of attaching them at the end unless I?m not using the tabs correctly.
Tom in the UK       1933 PDX R/S Coupe RHD
1934 PE PU if there was one              1941 PT125 
  https://ctrestorations.com/
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Bill Davis

Great work, Chet.  Thanks for including the link to the complete build.
It's looking very nice.  I know you are pleased with your progress.
-Bill Davis, Killen,AL
1951 Plymouth P-23 Cambridge 4 door
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