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Re: My 1929 U Restoration Thread
« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2016, 06:17:09 PM »
Seasons Greetings and back to work.

I cleaned up the Shackle which was on the front passenger side spring.  This shackle is very different to the Tryon Shackle which I am told was used on this car.  I have attached a picture below in the hopes that someone might recognize this shackle.  I believe my rear springs also have this type of shackle.  Of course the rear shackle is a bit larger.
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Re: My 1929 U Restoration Thread
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2016, 10:45:54 AM »
I am wondering if there will be any issue with the nylon bushing cold flowing over time. . .

Tod I had similar concerns.  I guess time will tell.  These trailer parts are used on Boat, Car, and Camping trailers.  Actually modern cars use hard rubber bushings to support leaf springs which were another possible choice.  So it's not like these parts were designed for another purpose and retrofitted for leaf springs.  These parts are most effective for boat trailers that carry considerable weight and are submerged often in sault water.  Also very easy to replace if something better comes along or if life expectancy is short.  After all my 29 isn't driven daily at highway speeds actually doing 45mph is a land speed record event.  The car likes 35mph as a cruising speed.

Thanks for the heads-up, Chet...

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Re: My 1929 U Restoration Thread
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2016, 07:06:26 AM »
I am wondering if there will be any issue with the nylon bushing cold flowing over time. . .

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Re: My 1929 U Restoration Thread
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2016, 05:38:56 PM »
It is always nice to see, how beautifully You do Your things!
Greetings from D?sseldorf!
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I guess it comes from 20 years of working for a German Technology company. 

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Re: My 1929 U Restoration Thread
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2016, 02:31:24 PM »
It is always nice to see, how beautifully You do Your things!
Greetings from D?sseldorf!
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Re: My 1929 U Restoration Thread
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2016, 10:51:42 AM »
I started the reassembly of the front suspension.

Over the past week or so I had removed the gravel shield and steering box and have been cleaning and renewing the front assembly parts.  Both tie rod ends have been cleaned as well as the tie rod shaft.  Removing the protective coating of grime has been a difficult task.  I am saving some parts like the gravel shields for the Hot Tank at our local Napa store.  Also I cleaned as much of the wheel well as needed and painted it with flat black rust-oleum.  With this work completed I started to reassemble the driver's side suspension.

I lightly honed the frame shackle holes to clear them of any burs.  I used a large 'C' clamp to press the Teflon Bushing into place.



Below is a picture of the shackle setup without the locking nuts.  I added washers to keep the shackle ends from scraping against the spring and frame support.



I installed the Steering Box, New Leaf Spring, Bumper, reassembled the Drag Link, New Grease fittings and greased everything.  I am very happy with the end result.



I also spent some time on the passenger side spring now that the Driver's side is completed.  The passenger side was in really bad shape.  The top leaf had been broken and was welded.  I can't believe I was ridding around with this spring in this condition.



BTW, The passenger side leaf spring had a different shackle setup.  It had a metal bushing with a screw in center pivot shaft that the shackle ends connected to.  Definitely a much better shackle than the Tryon Shackle.  I believe the different shackle and welded top leaf happened quite awhile ago.  With all the grime on the leaf spring you couldn't notice that a half leaf was added to facilitate the broken front spring eyelet.   :o

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Re: My 1929 U Restoration Thread
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2016, 03:57:58 PM »
I am looking forward to following your progress.

For what it is worth, the drag link end on my '33 is very similar in construction. But one thing it has that I don't see in yours is a leather piece with a hole and slot which goes under the top sheet metal piece. I guess it is supposed to be a seal. Was there any evidence that yours had something like that at one time?

Not sure, to many decades of dried grease.


In the 28 to 33 Master parts list the following items are listed:

1  - Drag link dust cover pad
8  - Drag link dust cover spring
9  - Drag link dust cover washer
10- Drag link dust cover

I recovered items 8, & 10 

I believe item '1' was a thin pad under the dust cover washer (item 9) and used as a seal.   The Master parts list references these items.   From what I can tell the order of assembly is as follows.  Reference picture above.

Item '10' dust cover
Item  '1'  Dust cover pad
Item  '9'  Dust cover washer
Item  '8'  Spring


Good pick up Tod, I haven't decided how I am going to deal with this yet; Of course leather is a useable option and easy to fabricate.  Also could use a soft rubber washer.

Have a Great Thanksgiving !!!
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Re: My 1929 U Restoration Thread
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2016, 10:22:52 AM »
I am looking forward to following your progress.

For what it is worth, the drag link end on my '33 is very similar in construction. But one thing it has that I don't see in yours is a leather piece with a hole and slot which goes under the top sheet metal piece. I guess it is supposed to be a seal. Was there any evidence that yours had something like that at one time?

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« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2016, 01:54:33 AM »
You are a friend of big projects!
Please continue to post or link!
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Re: My 1929 U Restoration Thread
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2016, 09:28:56 AM »
Chet,
Thanks for posting your restoration work.  I look forward to more postings as you continue your progress.
I knew you owned this car but didn't know what you were going to do with respect to any renewal of it.


Hi Bill, thanks for the response.  While I am working on the car's suspension any and all suggestions on body construction would be welcomed, especially the floor.  I know the original floor was plywood as far as my car is concerned nothing on the floor is original or for that matter.., I don't think it even closely mimics the original construction.  So for now pictures of a surviving 29 Ply showing the floor board construction & placement would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,  Chet...
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Re: My 1929 U Restoration Thread
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2016, 11:56:45 PM »
Chet,
Thanks for posting your restoration work.  I look forward to more postings as you continue your progress.
I knew you owned this car but didn't know what you were going to do with respect to any renewal of it.
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My 1929 U Restoration Thread
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2016, 05:56:34 PM »
I have had this car since 2006 and I finally have the time to devote to getting it back to a closer rendition of an Original Manufactured Vehicle.  In an effort not to clutter this post I am supplying links to my web blog that have detail information for each project step in this on going restoration diary.  I will continue to post my progress reports if there is interest in them.

All feedback & advise are welcomed.   

  see link:  http://www.1948plymouth.info/1929/Work_files/2016/10292016.htm

  see link:  http://www.1948plymouth.info/1929/Work_files/2016/11112016.htm

  see link:  http://www.1948plymouth.info/1929/Work_files/2016/11162016.htm

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