Hello,
I am new here and might be here to stay. Still am not sure yet. I stumbleed across a mostly complete 1941 PLY pick up. the truck is not frozen up or rotted out. It needs work but is mostly all there. I wanted to know what you all thought it is worth. I am looking to do a back yard restoe and drive it. It needs all new rubber on the cab, fender wleting, wiring , and more but like i said it is complete. are there any good books on these? any wiring diagrams?
Thanks alot
Ian T
i will let the pictures do the talking.
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I will post up more later.
what are your thoughts??
Looking to the pictures I think it needs a garage to take it appart, good manual to see if all parts under ther hood are there and a few year to spend on. $3500 seems to be a bit high but I'm no expert. It will be a lot $$$ to bring this to the road again. But if you love it, go for it.
That is some find.? Manuals can be found on Ebay, or you will get a lot of help here.? Wish I had it.?
okay well i have been getting mixed feelings on it so far. One part of me knows i will never see one ever again in my life time. The other part is tellin me to buy this jeep i have been looking at insteade. I think it is alittle high on price right now but i understand why. I would want to restore it as mentioned. I would NOT hot rod it. I would want a driver not a show truck. just somthing to drive around and enjoy knowing i did all the work myself. Any ideas on a fair offer for it?
Thanks again
From the pictures that looks like a very easy restoration. i certainly would not pass it up. I don't know US prices, so I can't advise on the asking price.
No idea on US prices too, but as rare as Your found is , I would surely not hesitate to buy it. You can?t however restore the frame and body in Your Yard! You will need a barn or at least a big roof.
Only problem may be to find front and rear turn signal lights, but with time these things can be found.
You can make a beauty out of it!
Greetings! Go
Ian,
Jim Benjaminson can probably help you - I expect him to reply soon.
Price in Old Cars Price guide for that condition is $2100 or better. In restored condition $12,000 - $17,000.
To me, I would buy it if I was closer - I love old Plymouth pickups.
Mark
A lot may depend on what kind of mechanical condition it is in. Does the engine run? What about the gears and rear end? I see you will need new floor boards. How confident are you that you can do the work that is needed. I have confidence that I can do anything mechanical so I was not concerned about the engine or brakes etc, but I don't have the facilities or expertise to do body and paint, so I bought a car that had a rock solid body and marginal mechanical components.
Mechanical parts will be easy to find. Body and trim will not. I don't know if anyone is making floor panels for those trucks or not.
You can count on it costing more money and taking more time than you think to restore it but for many of us, that is not a factor. We work on them because we enjoy working on them.
If the guy is asking $3600 and the book says its worth $2100, I bet he'd take $3000 or less, then you're only $900 above book value. Doesn't sound bad if that's what your looking for. I paid $7000 for a car whose book value was less than $5000, but as I said before, the body is rock solid, the car was running, and it was exactly what I was looking for and I've never had a second thought about it.
I think the question you have to ask yourself is if this is what you want and can you do the work AND ENJOY IT. If you bite off more than you can chew, and it becomes a burden than the truck isn't worth two cents. If it is what your looking for and it is a joy to work on (even those jobs that are a real pain in the neck), then $3600 is well worth it. (But you're not going to have to pay $3600, no one asks for the price they want - I'm guessing he's actually wanting $3000)
Thanks for all of those replys and keep them comming. Well i am not even sure if i have to have turn signals by law. Did these come stock with turn signals?? it does not look like it to me. As for the floor boards, the only whole is were the inspection panal would be. the rest of the floor and cab are solid. Don't these have a wooden section that goes over that part?? Well i do have a gagrge that i can use in the summer. I think i am capible of doing the mechanical aspect but i am less experanced with body work. That is why I looked at thistruck. The body is in very decent shape for its age. No major rot was found. the cab corns and such were in great shape. I also figure tha when i got to the paint stage i could do it myself or just bring it down to the local vogue tech and let them paint it for the price of paint (it is a technical vocational school). As for the drive line it is some what of a mystery at this point. The truck definatly appers to have run before going into storage. the oil is in the crank case and not sludgey but not brand new eather. the motor turns over with the starter and by hand with compression. the trans goes into all gears and out freely. and the truck rolls back and forth so all the brakes are not seazied up. I am sure it is going to need some brake work as well as clutch work. The carb moved freely as well. The current owner was going to pull the motor and drop in a hemi so he did not bother trying to get the six running.
Okay.... so i think the body is in better then average condision considering were this truck is from. The motor is an unknown but seems to be in very nice shape. the trans and rear end seem to move as they should, but i will not know if it has a chipped tooth or somthing like that untill i could get it running. All trim is on it as well as the chrome. I think i would be able to fix almost anything on it as long as i was able to find some more information. my biggest fear is the wiring. however these seem very simple. It would need to be all rewired as the wiring is shot. I already have a hot rod as i mentioned so i think this could be a joy to work on. it seems simple copared what i ussually work on.
Thanks for all the input.
also the guy has it for sale for 3500 or best resonable offer. I know he would go down to 3000 but i would really be happy if i could get it for around 2500. However i do not want to inslt the guy.
Ian
Just so there is no confusion i am looking to BUY this truck. I am not the current owner and i am not selling it. That said i did not release the location of the truck because i did not want it to be sold frome under me.
Thanks again for all the input.
I posted this because i got an email asking where i was and what i wanted. Sorry if there is any confusion about it. no harm done just thought i should make it more clear.
Quote from: 84400 on February 12, 2007, 05:00:18 PM
Just so there is no confusion i am looking to BUY this truck.? I am not the current owner and i am not selling it.? That said i did not release the location of the truck because i did not want it to be sold frome under me.
Thanks again for all? the input.
I posted this because i got an email asking where i was and what i wanted.? Sorry if there is any confusion about it.? no harm done just thought i should make it more clear.
I am a firm believer in the saying ? It never hurts to ask..?? If you are interested in the car for $2,500 then ask him if he would take $2,500.? ?Remember it never hurts to ask.., all he can say is no, then ask him what he will take.
Don?t worry.., I don?t think you are insulting a seller by offering him some money.
My 2 cents? Chet...
true. my guess is he wants 3 for it. He todl me some other guy looked at it and offered him 1200 and he sent that guy packing. I would be in good shape if he would take 2500 because then my dad and i could each chip in half. And that way i would be in good shape as far as other expences go.
Remember - the Old Cars Price Guide is just that - they say $2100 for a restorable truck, that is an average guess from what they have to go on. Remember there are not very many of these trucks out there and it does appear very clean and most everything hard to get is there (trim and important parts) I don't think $3000 would be an unreasonable offer.
Mark
Going by the pics that you have posted, i like mark do not think that 3,ooo is an unreasonable offer , if it was in my part of the world i would not hesitate. The way i understand it 1941 was the last of the Plymouth pickups also they were assembled on the dodge line along with the dodge ,fargo and desoto pickups, which should make the availability of mechanical and some body parts a lot easier
I love these beutifully profiled fenders- and You get all 4 of them!
Thanks again for your input. Yeah the hard to find parts are all there. My father and i have been investigating diffrent things and i think it is a good deal at 3,000 and anything lower is even better! The under hood wiring is not there as the current owner chopped it because he thought it was a fire hazard. I wished he had left it so i had a template to go off of. Anyways my dad and i were thinking it over and ibecause of the lack of wireing would it be a good time to convert to 12 v? I would Wire it using the heavyer gauge wiring and keep the generator if i decided to switch back. But i think as far as a driver goes it might be the better option. Would you convert it? Has anyone converted a plymouth positive ground system to a 12v?
thanks again
Ian T
If it makes any difference I sold a '47 Dodge 10 years ago for $2500 and it was not nearly as nice as this one. When the fellow came to pick it up he was driving a '47 Dodge with a car hauler. That was a sight. When I figure out how to attach a picture to this sight I will post it. Mark
thanks
As for pictures you could try photbucket com if you want a free way to host pictures and then just piost a link. My dad seems to be liking it more and more the longer he thinks about it.
We have to make up our minds >:( >:(
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WOW really neat photos! What was he going to do with yours??
The fellow has an art shop in Port Townsend, Wa. The first truck he uses for hauling stuff in. He bought mine to restore and use to advertise his business. I got the impression that it would get a higher level of finish and be more of a show truck. You can see this one truck is still working for a living.
NEAT I like seeing these old trucks still working. that is what i would do with the plymouth if i got it. well not work it but it would be no show truck. just a nice driver you know somthing to take out all summer and just enjoy. I have a "show" truck and i get kind of sick of dealing with it some times. Always waxign and cleaning ..........
I hear you. My 52 Dodge was to be a reconditioning and some paint. Now I can't even haul in it. The friend that helped me with the body work encouraged me to make it nicer and next thing you know not only do I have big money into the truck but I had to buy another truck for hauling. Sure looks nice though.
just wanted to update..
Still looking at other trucks and what not but i don't know if i can pass on this plymouth... It really seems like the perfect project. We just need to get the otherfamily member to see it that way. I have been searrching Ebay and doing research and really think this would be a good project truck.