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General Category => Parts and Paper => Topic started by: bfields on January 24, 2007, 02:26:28 PM

Title: Data Plates
Post by: bfields on January 24, 2007, 02:26:28 PM
I need data plates for my 1932 Plymouth and was wondering if anyone knew where I could get them. I met someone at Hershey who does them but I forgot to pick up his card. Let me know if you have some info about this. Thanks.
Title: Re: Data Plates
Post by: Jim Benjaminson on January 25, 2007, 03:43:34 PM
I have a source for the serial number plate for the door post if you need that one.
Title: Re: Data Plates
Post by: Wm Steed on January 26, 2007, 12:45:13 PM
I am a little confused (which is nomal) with the numbers on the '31 Plym I resently purchased. The serial number is present on the right door post, the number is 1621020, there is a plate on the engine side of the firewall which says Chrysler Plymouth, no body number.  I looked the number up in the Standard Catalog of American Cars which lists a Detroit built car as having a serial number range starting with 1570301, ending 1667963 then the numbering starts over with 1669001 ending 1669644 with a notation (PA Thrift). So far we have not been able to find the engine number which is supposed to be on the left front corner of the  block. 
The car is currently at my brothers in Idaho where the current tempreture is zero degrees, he is going to try and scrape more grime of the engine later today to see if he can find an engine number. which would establish if it is a PA

My concern in identifying what I have is that I bought the car on a bill of sale from a fellow that claimed it was a '32, which I doubled, but he insisted was fact because his brother owned one many year ago. I have a couple of possible sourses for a body to replace what has been removed from the car to turn it into a "saw car" so I want to make sure that if I purchase a body it is correct for the chassis I have.....Bil

Jim.... I found a wheel for the car at Moores in Rapid City..............l
Title: Re: Data Plates
Post by: hillbillybob on January 26, 2007, 06:21:06 PM
   i have a 31 pa and it has an oval back window my buddy has a 32 and it has a squre back window another friend has a 30 with a oval back window but it has a wood structure where mine has all steel  hope this will help also my vin is on the right door post and on the left side of the motor block at the front just below the head 
                       good luck
                                 Rob
Title: Re: Data Plates
Post by: Jim Benjaminson on January 26, 2007, 10:34:33 PM
The confusion comes in, in the fact the PA series was sold in both 1931 and 1932.  And after a certain serial number, the factory sold them as 32's (don't have that number handy).  Complicating that fact was that some states licensed by the year it was first sold, rather than the actual model year.....your car is a PA series, which for intents and purposes, the Plymouth Club calls a 1931....the PA Thrift's were sold all as 32's, being built from left over parts dating as far back as 1929!!!
Title: Re: Data Plates
Post by: John Hendricks on January 27, 2007, 11:04:22 AM
What u really need is book the size of a phone book called "Plymouth Master Parts List--final Edition-for all models 1928-1933"

I FOUND MINE AT A BOOK DEALER AT a large swap meet.  It is a reproduction.  U think u have "numbers problems"-- I have  an original 1932 PB that is Canadian built and i think Chrysler boxed up all the spare and left over parts and shipped them to the Ontario plant.  At least they documented alll of the various parts they used.  When ever i wonder about why a certain part seems funny, I get out the book and check the numbers and the serial numbers, and sure enuff, mine is stock.
Title: Re: Data Plates
Post by: Wm Steed on January 27, 2007, 12:57:35 PM
It would appear that since the serial number on my car is about in the middle of the numbering series (1621020) with the serial numbering range for a '31 PA being  ( 1570301/1667963) then it would be precluded from being a "Thrift" PA.  Hopefully the engine in the car is the original engine and/or the number was restamped into it if it is a preplacement engine, then if and when we find the engine number it will establish for sure what the car is.

Since the rear portion of the body, from the cowl back,  has been cut away it makes the identification a little more difficult because there are no windows, ie. oval rear or wood opposed to steel in the body.....Bill
Title: Re: Data Plates
Post by: DENNISKS on January 28, 2007, 12:22:12 PM
The parts book that John refered to are on eBay on a regular basis.  Usually around $ 35.00. Very well worth the money.
Dennis
Title: Re: Data Plates
Post by: Wm Steed on January 29, 2007, 12:00:00 AM
My brother scraped away the grease and dirt from the engine finding the engine number which is PA 55089. I guess that pretty well clinches the question of the year, it is definately a '31. I find it very interesting that the vehicle still had the original engine,  enlight of the fact that the unit was still working cutting firewood until just a few years ago speaks well of the Chrysle built engines....Bill