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Title: 16" wheel- What do I have here?
Post by: Chris in Jax on November 14, 2005, 11:45:16 PM
welcome back!? now I will re-post the question I posted about 2 hours before the old board went south- I have a NOS mystery wheel which I acquired when we cleaned out my late grandfather's barns in 1985. Thought it was a Chebby wheel because that's what he drove. The Chevrolet web site guys say it's not.? It is a 16" wheel with the same 5 hole pattern as our '37 but a different inner disc profile & lacking the hubcap clips. Is this a 40's Plymouth or Dodge wheel ? I can email photos if that helps.

Chris Brown
Jacksonville FL
'37 P4 4-door Touring
'31 Ford Standard Coupe

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Title: Re: 16" wheel- What do I have here?
Post by: Bill Davis on November 16, 2005, 12:16:52 AM

Chris,

Since the wheel has the same 5 hole pattern as your '37, do you think it might be
a Ford?  I think that Ford and Mopar rear wheel drive wheels have interchanged
since the '50's, but I do not know how far back this interchange goes.

-Bill
Title: Re: 16" wheel- What do I have here?
Post by: Chris in Jax on November 16, 2005, 07:58:41 AM
I have a Model A and the bolt pattern is different. I know the Model A bolt pattern lasted until 1935.? Will check with the early V8 web guys to find out how late the 16" wheels lasted. Considering the source, Ford & MoPar are equaly unlikely. I want to sell it but need to identify first....
Title: Re: 16" wheel- What do I have here?
Post by: Wm Steed on November 18, 2005, 12:54:58 PM
Actually the Ford lug bolt pattern is the same from 1928/35 then from 1940/48 on the cars and up through the late 70's on the 1/2 pickups and utilitires.  The Mopar bolt pattern is the same as Ford on all cars built from 1949 on, except for the 49/50 Merc's which used the earlier bolt pattern....Bill



39 Plym Conv. Coupe
Title: Re: 16" wheel- What do I have here?
Post by: Chris in Jax on November 18, 2005, 10:35:08 PM
can someone with a '40s plymouth email me a good photo of a wheel , showing the center portion in clear detail?

or.....I will be happy to email photos of my wheel for confirmation!

this is a very nice NOS wheel and I need to identify it properly before offering for sale.
Title: Re: 16" wheel- What do I have here?
Post by: mvair on November 19, 2005, 01:30:00 AM
For what it is worth...Here are a couple of pictures of wheels from a '41 Plymouth.  You can post your picture here for confirmation.
Title: Re: 16" wheel- What do I have here?
Post by: Chris in Jax on November 22, 2005, 01:08:09 AM
thanks for posting the photos- your '41 wheel looks almost exactly like our '37 wheels.
the open area you photographed with the tape measure is 5.5" on the "mystery wheel" rather than just 2", + it has little humps rather than clips to hold the hub cap.? I understand the P15s have 15" wheels- could this be for a Dodge D24?
Title: Differences between 1939 and 1941 Plymouth wheels
Post by: Roadkingcoupe on November 27, 2005, 07:31:03 PM
There is a difference between the 1939 and 1941 Plymouth 16" wheels. Although they look similar there are some "slots" cut out where the "hub" hits the "rim" and if I remember correctly the slots are longer on the 1939 and shorter on the 1941 Plymouth 16" wheels. Thanks.
Title: Re: 16" wheel- What do I have here?
Post by: John Hendricks on November 28, 2005, 11:24:16 AM
I can't tell from the photos--does the wheel have a "safety rim"?  If it doesn't then it is not a Chrysler model.
Title: Re: 16" wheel- What do I have here?
Post by: John Hendricks on December 01, 2005, 11:10:39 AM
I just learned something.  "Safety rim" wheels first appeared in the 1941chrysler lineup.  Which also means that the safety rim 600x16 wheels I finally found for my 1940 Ply pickup are incorrect.  However-- they will stay . ;D
Title: Re: 16" wheel- What do I have here?
Post by: Chris in Jax on December 01, 2005, 09:52:24 PM
the one I have is not a "saftey" rim......