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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: twpoulter on January 27, 2017, 03:57:05 PM

Title: PD owners willing to share details of there cars
Post by: twpoulter on January 27, 2017, 03:57:05 PM
Posted this on the FaceBook page but think I may have more luck here.

Things you would not find out about your Plymouth on FaceBook, I own an 83 yr old PD Coupe, Jim Benjaminson requested I sent him copy of my Build Card for his personal historic records, mine is the only RHD Build Card he has seen. Long story short the Plymouth Owners Club Inc now knows of 3 cars built on the same day within 252 builds which could equate to 10 hrs production time.

FOR PD OWNER ONLY I would be interested in hearing from owners with a serial No. Starting :- 2138xxx and if you have build card would be even better. This series of No. Would be late August early September 1933 pm preferred.I am trying to establish how the production plant may have operated, working with Tod's figures Detroit produced 186,950 over 44 weeks, this breaks down on the assumption they worked 24/7 and working on averages, there would have been a ramp up and tailing off although it is documented that the PE as late hitting the track.
4250  units/week
  607  units/day
25.25 units/hour
As it stands the club records have 3 Coupes built on 6th Sept 1933 plus another close to the beginning of the serial No. 21380xx but I don't know the body style of that one.


Title: Re: PD owners willing to share details of there cars
Post by: TodFitch on January 27, 2017, 07:37:53 PM
FWIW, my PD has a serial number in the 2081xxx range and was built on Jun 28th (or maybe 25th, it is a bit smudged and hard to read).
Title: Re: PD owners willing to share details of there cars
Post by: twpoulter on January 28, 2017, 07:18:15 PM
Thanks Tod does your card give a ready for dispatch date, mine hit the track on the 6th and ready for shipping on the 12th. All helps keeping the grey matter working. Thanks


Tom
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Title: Re: PD owners willing to share details of there cars
Post by: TodFitch on January 30, 2017, 01:48:39 AM
Quote from: twpoulter on January 28, 2017, 07:18:15 PM
Thanks Tod does your card give a ready for dispatch date, mine hit the track on the 6th and ready for shipping on the 12th. All helps keeping the grey matter working. Thanks


Tom
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Has another date near the bottom right of 6/30 and it has a "shipping order number". The "Destination - City and State" are filled in with "Rochester, NY". And the "Remarks" are filled in with "Lang Motors".
Title: Re: PD owners willing to share details of there cars
Post by: twpoulter on January 30, 2017, 02:57:36 AM
Thanks Tod, need a few more entries to try and determine a pattern, if your start date was 25th-shipping30th that would fit with my theory of 6 days on the track but we be talking big numbers.
Title: Re: PD owners willing to share details of there cars
Post by: twpoulter on April 05, 2017, 04:38:30 PM
Have just received an addition to the list from 10th July 33 sold as a drive away on the 11th serial #  2089XXX . this latest entry gives in round figures from 28th June - 11th July (14 days) 8000 rolled of the track. I can also now add that from 11th July - 12th September 9 wks  49000 were dispatched
Title: Re: PD owners willing to share details of there cars
Post by: 33plycoupe on June 11, 2017, 11:23:51 AM
Don't know if this info will help you; however, following is the info from the build card for my 1933 PD Deluxe r/s coupe.
Serial: 2051XXX
Destination: Provo, Utah
Build Date: May 31, 1933
Ship Date: N/A
Paint Code: 530
NOTE: Lou De Simone called me after I received the card to state that the paint code was non standard, meaning they really didn't know the original color. He felt it was more than likely a shade of grey!
Title: Re: PD owners willing to share details of there cars
Post by: TodFitch on June 11, 2017, 11:52:13 AM
Quote from: 33plycoupe on June 11, 2017, 11:23:51 AM
Don't know if this info will help you; however, following is the info from the build card for my 1933 PD Deluxe r/s coupe.
Serial: 2051XXX
Destination: Provo, Utah
Build Date: May 31, 1933
Ship Date: N/A
Paint Code: 530
NOTE: Lou De Simone called me after I received the card to state that the paint code was non standard, meaning they really didn't know the original color. He felt it was more than likely a shade of grey!

1934 is the earliest year that there is factory information about paint codes. However there were patterns that were maintained over the years and assuming those patterns were followed in 1933, then 100's would be black, 200's would be blues, 500's would be greys, 600's would be maroons. You can see the 1934 color codes at http://www.ply33.com/Models/PE/#paintcodes and my attempt to figure out some of the 1933 color codes at http://www.ply33.com/Models/PD/#paint

In the case of 1933 color code 530, I was informed by the previous tech advisor that it was for Durode Grey.
Title: Re: PD owners willing to share details of there cars
Post by: twpoulter on June 12, 2017, 07:42:48 AM
Quote from: 33plycoupe on June 11, 2017, 11:23:51 AM
Don't know if this info will help you; however, following is the info from the build card for my 1933 PD Deluxe r/s coupe.
Serial: 2051XXX
Destination: Provo, Utah
Build Date: May 31, 1933
Ship Date: N/A
Paint Code: 530
NOTE: Lou De Simone called me after I received the card to state that the paint code was non standard, meaning they really didn't know the original color. He felt it was more than likely a shade of grey!

Thanks Robert for joining this piece of research I think it is time to make a wiki list provided I can remember how to do it but I've done it before so shouldn't be too much of a problem. Basically it's a tabulation of the entries in one place.
Thanks.
Title: Re: PD owners willing to share details of there cars
Post by: twpoulter on June 14, 2017, 08:03:57 PM



|  PD Serial # History from Build Cards  |

| Serial # |  Build Date  |  Body Type  |  Point of Delivery  |

|   2051XXX      |   5/31/33   |   R/S Coupe  |    Provo Utah  |

|2081XXX  |    6/28/33    |   2 D Sedan | Rochester NY (Lang Motors)|

|    2089XXX    |    7/11/33    |        Coupe  |

|   2138XXX   |  9/12/33  |  R/S Coupe rhd  |   Johannesburg SA |

Title: Re: PD owners willing to share details of there cars
Post by: 36splodge on September 01, 2017, 05:52:36 PM
I don't have a PD but like seeing this kind of Plymouth information being brought up on the site. Good luck on your quest!
Title: Re: PD owners willing to share details of there cars
Post by: twpoulter on September 24, 2017, 06:50:13 PM

Thanks for your encouragement a slow process. Wish I could get the table above to work.