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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: racertb on December 30, 2016, 12:32:14 PM

Title: Artillery Wheel Restoration - New Pics
Post by: racertb on December 30, 2016, 12:32:14 PM
Happy New Year!

Just wanted to share some pics after I had my wheels painted and pinstriped...this project also included re-doing the brakes while everything was apart.  These are of the finished product, but I have a lot more of the entire process on Chet's 28Q29U site.

Ted

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Title: Re: Artillery Wheel Restoration - New Pics
Post by: TodFitch on December 30, 2016, 12:41:23 PM
Like the wheels and I really like the car!
Title: Re: Artillery Wheel Restoration - New Pics
Post by: racertb on December 30, 2016, 02:34:02 PM
Thanks Tod.  You might remember the car from many years ago with it's old top and whitewalls when you put a picture of it on your site.

Ted
Title: Re: Artillery Wheel Restoration - New Pics
Post by: 28 Ply.cpe on January 09, 2017, 08:35:28 AM
I am glad to see those gorgeous wheels. In 1928 the wood spoke wheels were painted the body color. I do believe the hubs and drums were also the same color. I did my 28 business coupe the same way.  They look much better than stained and varnished which I know a lot of people do. My concerns are when you show the car at a National meet , like myself, I am always told that the center hub and drums were always black. Who knows for sure anymore.  I love it  I have original salesman color brochure and it shows all wheels and hubs same color.
I am always told well that is the artist rendering of the car. Looks great.
Title: Re: Artillery Wheel Restoration - New Pics
Post by: racertb on January 09, 2017, 10:13:33 AM
Thanks...I believe in '28 and '29, the spokes, hubs, etc. were body color and natural in '30.  I thought I read that natural was an "option" for '28 and/or '29.  As for the judges, that may be more of their opinion than anything...and that's my opinion.  Do they REALLY know???  I'm attaching a couple photos I used when deciding to do my wheels that show the rims black (not cadmium - I read those could be either) and the spokes, hubs, etc. all (or it looks like) body color.  I also used the photos to get the correct pin-striping of the spokes as well.  I've seen other Chrysler's and Desoto's this way too.   Things could have been done different ways back then, for whatever reason.  That's my story and I'm sticking to it! :)

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Title: Re: Artillery Wheel Restoration - New Pics
Post by: 28 Ply.cpe on January 09, 2017, 05:30:53 PM
-Thanks for the info. The wheels do look good all one color. Mine being dark blue I thought looked better with the cadmium looking color to bring out the rim color to break up the dark look. Do you think it would look better black . Nice article and picture
Title: Re: Artillery Wheel Restoration - New Pics
Post by: racertb on January 09, 2017, 06:40:42 PM
I think the cadmium looks good and you could go either way.  I went with black based on what I think is black in the photo and since it's a roadster like mine  I think black looks better on my car than cadmium would. 
Title: Re: Artillery Wheel Restoration - New Pics
Post by: chetbrz on January 10, 2017, 04:33:59 PM
Quote from: 28 Ply.cpe on January 09, 2017, 08:35:28 AM
I am glad to see those gorgeous wheels. In 1928 the wood spoke wheels were painted the body color. I do believe the hubs and drums were also the same color. I did my 28 business coupe the same way.  They look much better than stained and varnished which I know a lot of people do. My concerns are when you show the car at a National meet , like myself, I am always told that the center hub and drums were always black. Who knows for sure anymore.  I love it  I have original salesman color brochure and it shows all wheels and hubs same color.
I am always told well that is the artist rendering of the car. Looks great.

Very interesting comment..,  In Ted's picture of the Factory Wheel it appears that the Drum, Hub, and wood spokes are one color (or shade) and the rims appear much darker, even black.  I also have a Salesman's Confidential Data Book for 1929.  Unfortunately the pictures are drawn in Gray Scale and I am missing pages 3-4 Special colors & equipment.  Needless to say an interesting discussion.  I guess we may have to find a color photo of a period car which isn't black in color.  Anyone out there have one.

Cheers,  Chet...