Plymouth Owners Club

General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: POC-Admin on November 14, 2005, 07:01:49 PM

Title: The Club needs help here.
Post by: POC-Admin on November 14, 2005, 07:01:49 PM
Hey guys and gals - since we are back and lost all the previous discussion board - we have a problem.

Beside not knowing who used to belong here we also don't know what layout you guys want.  I am open to suggestions.  Please post here what

Catagories

you would like to see - for now - at least a week or so - the General will be here and we will add more as we get input.

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: The Club needs help here.
Post by: jd2ksilver on November 15, 2005, 05:11:25 PM
Would like to see a Technical, or how to section.

Parts for sure..

Newbie here.
Title: Re: The Club needs help here.
Post by: 58savoy on November 17, 2005, 12:31:42 AM
How about a place to post? members rides or photos of whats going on in their local area.? Just a thought

58savoy
Title: Re: The Club needs help here.
Post by: Edwin on November 18, 2005, 06:42:19 PM
I would like to see a section where you can post very positive and helpfull sellers and scum. A lot of bad-guys out there. At the previous forum it didn't work well, I dont know why.'

I've seen forums split by electrical, engine, body, etc. I like it straight, only a marker at the post for if you want to look for a special tech, part surch etc problem
As I recall, about 80% was tech. If you make a split like that, make it possible to see all post in all sections in one overview ordered by date, like the old forum. Will save me a lot of mouse-clicks and surfing from site to site.

last but not least, a section where you have links or phone-numbers ordered by parts you need.
Title: Re: The Club needs help here.
Post by: Wm Steed on November 20, 2005, 12:40:45 AM
I belong to several car clubs, the Early V8 Ford Club, the Buick Club (BCA)  the WPC,  besides the POC that have online Forums. None of these clubs are that concerned if a contributers car/questions are relative to a modified car.  I know that the "Mission" of the POC is the authentic/correct restoration of the Plymouth automobiles, however, I would venture a guess that the majority of the vehicles that the members of the POC have are MODIFIED, even if it is just an overdrive or an engine that has been modified to run at modern hiway speeds using unleaded fuel.  I would also venture a guess that the majority of the current members to the POC could care less if a car is stock or modifed because they have no desire to enter their vehicles in POC club sanctioned judging.

With the above thought in mind, I will offer the following suggestions:

The BAC Forum breaks their threads down to: GENERAL- PREWAR-  PERFORMANCE/MODIFIED - BUY/SELL - TECH, ETC, ETC

If you want information about re-powering your 36 Century Conv. with a late model power train, click on Performance/Modified. The wealth of information you will find is staggering, be it modifications to a straight eight or a" how to do it list "  to convert your brakes to late model Roadmaster brakes.

If it is not to difficult the discssion threads could be broken down to: 4 cylinder cars--- Prewar---Post War ---Performance/Modified---General Discussion, Etc

By breaking the discussion groups down into specific topics, the complaints relative to authentic/correct could be kept to a minimum.

....Bil
Title: Re: The Club needs help here.
Post by: Go Fleiter on November 20, 2005, 03:54:58 AM
Dear Bill,

the big disadvantage of splitting into more threads would be that any fellow would be forced to look into any of these to get an overlook on what is happening in the scene. I find it annyoing even now to open the existing three kategories of general discussion.

   I?d rather suggest to dedicate a symbol (instead of the smileys) to each of the classes You proposed, so with a look on this we can deciese if to open or not.

   I personally like original Plymouth most, but mine too needed a couple of modification to keep it running prblemlessly. And anybody will agree, that Pete andersons Beauty would have been a loss not to have it on this forum in spite of the modifications! And these fellows know a lot of valuable hints for the others too!

   So: Yes, I would like to see here even heavily  modified cars too.  For the Hot Rod beauties:, I go to their sites

Greetings! Go
Title: Re: The Club needs help here.
Post by: Wm Steed on November 20, 2005, 01:08:40 PM
GO..... I tend to agree with you, the POC and the Early V8  Forums are set up in a very simular format, ie: you can just scroll through the topics, if they interest you open it up, no action it goes to the next page (s) where it can always be retreived if there is an interest.  Case in point, the 39 Plym Conv. Coupe thread I started which had one of the highest "read/replies" of any of the  Topics.

I think that in today's world one has to be a realist, the old cars, prewar (WWII) are loosing their value and popularity, this is especially true of the pre 1930's because the people that relate to these cars are getting along in age where-as the BABY Boomers (born after 1945) are becoming very active in the car clubs. Lets face it a 1975 Detriot Mussel car is a lot more useful than a 1933 Put Put.

I suggested a Modified/Performance Discussion because I have seen way to much negative comments here on the POC when someone asks a simple question about converting from 6 v to 12 v, dual exhausts, etc.  I have had the same negative comments directed at me because my 39 Plym is a hiighly modified/modernized vehicle....Bill
Title: Re: The Club needs help here.
Post by: POC-Admin on November 20, 2005, 04:02:46 PM
Wm Steed said...

QuoteI suggested a Modified/Performance Discussion

Well, I have been getting some "concerned" emails about how we are discussing things that are not "Koshir" to the Plymouth Owners Club.  I have suggested (off board) that maybe we need a catagory called

DISCUSSION NOT IN LINE WITH THE OFFICIAL STAND OF THE PLYMOUTH OWNER'S CLUB

I agree that as the younger people get more involved in Plymouths we have to keep them interested.  The primary focus of the club should be to encourage people to restore (for judging and preservation) all old Plymouths - but acknowledge the fact that some people like to drive their old Plymouths.  It would totally contra-productive to the ultimate goal of the POC to discourage anyone from owning a Plymouth.  If we say that all discussion of "conversions", "modifications", "modernization" or just making "Kool" is FORBIDDEN - we will and have driven people away from our group.

I am probably getting myself in some trouble here but from a personal point of view, I like most Kustoms and Rods.  I love restored and survivor old cars too.  Heck I love a lot of new cars - they do make them better today than they ever did before - at least in my opinion. 

When the club originally was formed it was to be 4 cylinder Plymouths only.  There is still a sort of sub-club within the club of those people.  There is no problem with that but our name has and is Plymouth Owner's Club - Plymouth is NOT being promoted by Daimler/Chrysler and is for all practiacal purposes dead.  If we of the Plymouth Owner's Club don't promote all Plymouths including the 1928 models up to the last Neon that rolled down the line, we are missing part of our mission.

I don't want this to turn into a "Hot Rod Club" we have plenty of those but in my opinion again we need to address those who own older Plymouths and want to drive them - a lot! 

As always - judging should remain - AS ORIGINAL FROM CHRYSLER - and that should not ever change - but I don't see why we can't talk about Plymouths no matter what they have had done to them.

I own a 1968 Fury, I can't tell you how many nice "C" body cars have been demo-derby food for years.  I love the 69+ fusalage "C"'s too but they are getting harder and harder to find.  We are talking about 40 year old cars again and because they are not "muscle cars" but have large engines in them they end up sitting with the drive train removed and put in some Cuda or Road Runner.  But some of those guys that gut the "C's" have been nice enough over the years to save some parts for those of us who drive them and restore them - I think more would have been saved if word got out that people wanted them.  Sure we might attract someone who just bought a 46 Plymouth and wants to make a rod out of it.  If we knew about it and made friends - maybe someone could get that seat frame or dash part they have needed for years - maybe cheap.

I think I will just start a pole for the heck of it - probably going to get myself in trouble there too but what the heck.

Mark
Title: Re: The Club needs help here.
Post by: David Rainville on November 20, 2005, 07:58:33 PM
I'm a new member but thought I'd throw in my 2 cents. The older car guys ( pre-war)vs. newer ones don't seem to share a lot in common other than a like for cars period. I think you have a tough one to solve there.
As to how forums function, I'm also a sailor and browse the Hunter owners web daily. All question/coments are sequencial in there entry to a single forum however there is a column that tells you what boat( read car) they are discussing. It's very easy to run through this forum and pull-up what interests you. Something along this line would seem to work here.
David
Title: Re: The Club needs help here.
Post by: Joe Godec on November 22, 2005, 12:36:19 PM
Unfortunately, the old Plymouths (pre V-8) are losing their appeal to the younger folks.  In fact, I'm an old fudd (63) and I never was too much interested in them as I remember driving my dad's flathead '51 Cranbrook -- desperately hoping any girl I knew wouldn't see me in it!
However, when he got a '60 Fury with a SonoRamic Commando I was in "deep cotton" as that was just at the genesis of the muscle car era.  So when I hot-rodded that big-tailed beast around town, the younger set (i.e., the ones in grade and high school) envied me and all the other refugees from "American Grafitti."  Those kids now have the money to buy the cars they dreamed about when they were watching us "older" guys "drag the gut" (cruise Main, or Woodword, or whatever) and they were not dreaming about flathead 6s or 4-bangers.  It might be a good idea to have club representatives at some of the big muscle car events such as the MoPar Nationals, Chryslers at Carlisle, Barrett-Jackson just "to show the flag" and let the public become more aware of the club.     
Title: Re: The Club needs help here.
Post by: Mopar Al on December 09, 2005, 07:44:16 AM
My Dad had a 53 Plymouth 6 - cyl.  I loved it..   I had a 52  Ply. 6 - cyl and I loved it .  I had a 57 Ply.  6 - cyl. love it and a  74  Ply.  6 - cyl.   a 58, 8 cyl. and 61,  8 cyl.   I was just a satisfied with the 6's  as  with the 8's.       A plymouth is a "PLYMOUTH"     
                                                                                               Mopar Al