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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Ausoj20 on April 29, 2010, 04:14:44 PM

Title: Value of classic cars
Post by: Ausoj20 on April 29, 2010, 04:14:44 PM
I doubt it but I am wondering if there is anyone on here that knows of a website or some other form of valuing old, classic cars. I've been presented with a few opportunities to buy vehicles that I have passed up because of not knowing the values. Some I knew were smart decisions like a '68 Ford Galaxy for $3000, and a few other but my brother found a '73 Nova with 80k original miles, two owners (mother and then her son), 307 engine with a 4 brl, needs a little bit of body work and he payed $400 for it. I just need a way of figuring out if i should purchase one of these vehicles next time the opportunity presents itself.
Thank you
.:Joshua:.
Title: Re: Value of classic cars
Post by: plym_46 on April 29, 2010, 09:17:38 PM
HAVE YOU BEEN LIVING UNDER A ROCK????  Everybody knows the Barret Jackson Televised Auto Auctions set the value for old cars.
If you can't believe Barret Jackson, (are they not the Goldman Sachs of the old car world) who can you believe?

Best mosey down to the local Barnes and Noble or your local cigar shop, and pick up a copy of Hemings, Old Cars Weekly or Old Cars pricing guide.

You can also search ebay's completed autcions for cars similar to what you have an interest in and then deduct the proper amount.

Ultimately it is YOU, the purchaser that determines the actual value if and when you conclude a sale.  If you thinks it too expensive it probably is........

Title: Re: Value of classic cars
Post by: 36 Ply on April 29, 2010, 10:57:31 PM
OLD CARS PRICE GUIDE, available in the magazine rack of most bookstores, will give you a ballpark figure on car values. As plym_46 stated,ultimately, a car is worth what you decide to pay for it.

Regards,
Pat OConnor
Title: Re: Value of classic cars
Post by: mvair on April 30, 2010, 01:27:11 AM
Quote from: plym_46 on April 29, 2010, 09:17:38 PM
HAVE YOU BEEN LIVING UNDER A ROCK????  Everybody knows the Barret Jackson Televised Auto Auctions set the value for old cars.

I haven't been living under a rock and I didn't know that. Does Barret Jackson sell run-out cars that teenagers want as a first project car? Well...maybe I have been living under a rock! I think Ausoj20 said in his last post that he is 18 years old. Nothing like giving a warm welcome to a new old car enthusiast.

I own seven cars an I bought all of them for under $1,000 and put more money in all of them than they are worth, but I haven't put any money in slot machines so I figure I am still ahead in the enjoyment vs value equation.

My advice is decide what you want, a project car or a driver, and realize that often it is cheaper to pay more up front if you have a mechanic confirm that a car is in serviceable condition. Otherwise, you may get a bargain that is a money pit. The best way to determine local price is to look for a few months at every car you see for sale. You may miss a good deal in the process, but at least you won't end up getting burned when you do find what you want...and pay a fair price.


Title: Re: Value of classic cars
Post by: JimCno on April 30, 2010, 09:49:24 AM
The NADA website has values for all cars, used and classic.
Title: Re: Value of classic cars
Post by: Ausoj20 on April 30, 2010, 10:28:44 AM
Ouch Plym_46... that was a little harsh :-[I live under a LOG thank you very much  :P I do know about Barrett Jackson but I'm asking about cars that AREN'T restored and "Perfect". I'm just looking for something to start with.

Thanks Mvair  :)
Title: Re: Value of classic cars
Post by: plym_46 on April 30, 2010, 08:20:22 PM
Well I guess I got your attention, but you guys missed the rest of the message.  Perhaps the link between BJ and the current fraud alligations at Goldman Sachs went over your heads.  Barret Jackson is a joke and so was my reference to it.  The last sentence say it all.  but the magazines and other old car periodicals can provide you with a lot of information so you can make a wise and affordable choice.  So can hanging out with the local car guys at swap meets and cruise ins.  I have head of a lot of inexpensives parts and vehicles bu talking with folks with cars your are interested in.

I will now remove my tongue from my cheek as it apparently wastn;t noticed there.


Title: Re: Value of classic cars
Post by: Roadcuda on April 30, 2010, 09:51:03 PM
Quote from: plym_46 on April 30, 2010, 08:20:22 PM
Well I guess I got your attention, but you guys missed the rest of the message.  Perhaps the link between BJ and the current fraud alligations at Goldman Sachs went over your heads.  Barret Jackson is a joke and so was my reference to it.  The last sentence say it all.  but the magazines and other old car periodicals can provide you with a lot of information so you can make a wise and affordable choice.  So can hanging out with the local car guys at swap meets and cruise ins.  I have head of a lot of inexpensives parts and vehicles bu talking with folks with cars your are interested in.

I will now remove my tongue from my cheek as it apparently wastn;t noticed there.



If it makes you feel any better, I caught what you were saying.   There are many people who believe that the BJ auctions are one reason that the prices of muscle cars, which is where my interest currently is, are so high.  In those auctions you often get 2 or 3 people who want a particular car, and with their bottomless pocket they will keep bidding on it until they either get it, of reached their limit fs what they are willing to spend.  So this leads other people to say,  well, such and such car went for this much at a BJ auction, so all cars like it are worth that much.  Then I think it tends to trickle down to other models and it just makes it that much harder for the rest of us to afford to buy an antique car.  I also think that some prices in Hemmings seem to reflect that thinking.  Just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: Value of classic cars
Post by: mvair on May 02, 2010, 12:17:12 PM
Quote from: plym_46 on April 30, 2010, 08:20:22 PM
I will now remove my tongue from my cheek as it apparently wastn;t noticed there.

Thanks for the explanation. I think you had an emoticon fail. The emoticon for cheeky is  :P not  ???

Rather than giving the impression you had your tounge in your cheek you gave the impression you had your head somewhere else.  :P
Title: Re: Value of classic cars
Post by: plym_46 on May 02, 2010, 11:38:07 PM
Well since I try to never use emotiwhazits, don't kow how that pesky bugger got in there.  Surely wasn't intentional.
Title: Re: Value of classic cars
Post by: Captain Neon on May 03, 2010, 06:39:38 AM
plym_46 and I have made the unfortunate acquaintance of a new owner of a '47 coupe that actually believed his car just needed a new paintjob and could expect $35K simply because of the prices on BJ auctions.  Even told us all that we were ignorant to only believe that top dollar on a P15 coupe was more in the $10K area.
Title: Re: Value of classic cars
Post by: Ausoj20 on May 12, 2010, 07:03:42 PM
I see that now Plym_46. Sorry for no reply for a while. Graduation is tomorrow for me so I've been stressed out for weeks. Have to do a 20 minute presentation to three judges that determine if I can graduate or not. Purchasing a new, old car has been put on hold. The transmission in my truck is losing compression for some reason so I have to wait and see what happens in the next month or so.
Title: Re: Value of classic cars
Post by: Go Fleiter on May 13, 2010, 02:45:55 AM
Good Luck for Your exam!!
Title: Re: Value of classic cars
Post by: Ausoj20 on May 18, 2010, 10:41:40 AM
Thanks fleiter. Passed! Now just gotta find out what the heck is wrong with my truck ???. If anyone knows anything about dodge transmissions (mid 1990's) and are willing to give me some suggestions on whats wrong, could you please email me at . ;D
Thank you
Title: Re: Value of classic cars
Post by: Ausoj20 on May 18, 2010, 10:44:27 AM
Hopefully I don't offend anyone too much talking about a Dodge issue on here  :-\ Sorry if I do
Title: Re: Value of classic cars
Post by: 36 Ply on May 18, 2010, 12:56:02 PM
Joshua-
If you now only have 2nd & reverse gear, check for a rubber boot on the tranny. If it is not sealed tight to the case, water may have shorted out the solenoids inside the boot.

Good luck,
Pat O'Connor
Title: Re: Value of classic cars
Post by: Ausoj20 on May 18, 2010, 02:22:15 PM
What's going on is when I first start the truck cold, it revs up real high for about 3 seconds in drive before finally moving.( don't know the RPMs, no tach) Once it starts moving, it's fine for first gear, and second gear(shifts a little hard but always has been since I owned it), but when it starts going around 50 mph, it wont shift into overdrive like it should (rated to shift into final gear at about 45 mph). It's topping about 52mph because it wont hit that last gear. It's an automatic deisle tranny and some stuff I found online mentioned compression and seals but I'm just not sure.