Lately, I've had a helper cleaning up our shop and storage areas, which have accumulated a lot of miscellany, having been the site of literally dozens of projects over the past twenty years time.
There have been literally hundreds of left-over fasteners turning up, amongst which will be some number of the original bolts from quite a few Dodge/Ply engines and gearboxes which had been rebuilt, or otherwise tinkered-up over the years.
Now, I really don't like to re-use common fasteners.....if I can get new grade 8 bolts and nuts for a job, I always do so......its just 'insurance', as it were.
Be that as it may, I'm suspecting that there may be some restorers who are building up older cars primarily for display, and might think it important to have original DPCD marked bolts in places where they are visible.
If anyone is interested to that extent, I can have my helper sort the bolts for that headstamp,
I can clean, gently glass-blast, and black-oxide finish the bolts so they'll look new.....let me know whether this is worth doing, whether anyone really wants these bolts, etc......if they are desirable, I'll see what we have, do them up, inventory them, and put them up for trade, for this or that oddment part we can use.
cheers
Carla
I'm interested!
I have saved a number of these bolts too and while I do not need any more, I wonder what the logic was behind where they were originally found. There are certain applications where you can expect to find them, for example, on the transmission, but perhaps not the engine.
Quote from: David Pollock on December 29, 2007, 01:16:52 PM
I have saved a number of these bolts too and while I do not need any more, I wonder what the logic was behind where they were originally found. There are certain applications where you can expect to find them, for example, on the? transmission, but perhaps not the engine.
Many (most or all?) of the bolts on my 1933 are marked with DB in a circle. I assume that stood for "Dodge Brothers". One story I heard was that car manufacturers had all their bolts marked so that any bolts leaving the factory in workmen's pockets or lunch boxes could be proven to be stolen from the factory.
I have a 1954 Dodge M37 Army Truck that I restored. All of those bolts are marked also. In places that you can see the bolt I have tried to keep re-used those bolts. SInce this is the first car I am doing - a 1941 Plymouth - Can you tell me if the bolts on this car are also marked?
Thanks
Carmen
Not all the bolt heads in any particular car are marked DPCD. Ones that I have noticed are mostly 1/2 inch head, but there are a few 9/16 and 5/8? and the large bolt which goes through the forward end of the rear spring.? What I was wondering is if there is any logic as to where they were originally found.....say on sub assemblies like the steering box or transmission?? I have disassembled a lot of these cars over the years and have not really discerned a pattern.? The DP
Like David,over the years i have pulled a lot of these cars to peices either doing up or parting out , untill reading this post i have never taken any notice what was on the head of the bolts , i usualy just cleaned them up on the electric wire brush replaced them back where they came from or threw them in a box. after reading all this today i went out and checked the two cars that i have plus some spare engines ranging from 1937-1954, so far the only bolts i have found with DPCD on them were the bolts that attach the bell housing to the block. all the head bolts that i have checked (and that is from 6 engines) have a M on them, or it could be a w depending on how you look at them
Now look what you guys made me do. The last day of 2007 has had me dump a full five gallon pail of accumulated nuts bolts and washers out on the floor of the workshop and I spent several happy hours sorting them out. First all the 5/16 bolts. Found some more with DPCD...... put them in a separate container. Then all the washers...... Next the special bolts like flywheel and clutch. Thank heavens a friend turned up with a case of beer, or I would have wrung in the new year sorting bolts. I'll do the 3/8 ones next. There are a lot more bolts than nuts, although my friend and his wife were not so sure. When the authorities turn me loose, I will try to sell my Bolt Trivia game to a publisher. ...Happy New Year. dp
I've said it before, if nothing else, our hobby keeps us out of the bars ;D Happy new year! Bill James
While people are out looking for bolts, I wonder if you could find three bolts I need. I have maintained all of the original logo head bolts on my restoration. There are three bolts that I must replace as described below.
All of these bolts are body sheetmetal bolts. The bolts (or cap screws) have a recessed head with concentric circles and the letter "S" in the middle. They have a washer that is permanently attached just below the head.
The one I know I need is 1/4"x20/1".
If someone has these, I will find the other two bolts and measure them as well.
Thanks.
When I restored my '38 Chrylser I tried to use as many of the original bolts as I could.? I mean, I had every bolt out of this car and re-used all that I could.? Only bolts I replaced were to do with front end and rear end as well as motor mounts. If some were stripped, rusted, or otherwise unusable, I went to my trusty bolt cans and could usually find an old bolt that would work. Whenever, I work on my '48 Dodge D25 or '53 Plymouth I try stay with the original or original style bolts. I will clean them and use the tap and die if necessary but 95% of bolts are re-usable. I guess it's a personal thing!
Hi, I just joined this website and I'm looking for the DPCD bolts for my 1935 Dodge DU. I need 1/4-20 DPCD bolts either 3/4 or 1" long. If you have about 20-24 of them for the front grille and fender shields. I know the thread on this subject is old but I thought I would at least try. Also I have some Powerwagon DPCD bolts for sale / trade.
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When did they change from having "DB" stamped on the bolts to having "DPCD" stamped on them? For 1935 you may need the "DB" versions to be authentic.
That said, I don't have a source for either.
The bolts are supposed to be DPCD as I do have 95 percent of the correct bolts. I'm just missing the 1/4-20 bolts up front.